StoptheACLU Brings the Crazy

Obama’s stealing the census from Congress has suddenly awakened and enraged the Republicans. Maybe this will arouse them as well to challenge Obama for stealing the Presidency itself. They surely know he is not an Article 2 “natural born citizen” (which is more than merely being a 14th Amendment “citizen”) by virtue of either Obama’s birth to a dad of Kenyan/British citizenship or birth in Kenya itself — as manifested by his unwillingness to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal.

It's *now* under seal? You mean something beyond Hawaii's normal practice of refusing to release “vault copy” birth certificates?

I've heard other people claim that, but I've never seen any evidence for it. Have you got some?

Glad to see this issue is not going away. Hawaii has not sealed the birth certificate, it is protected under Hawaiian law and can be obtained under a strict set of guidelines. Andy Martin filed suit to obtain a copy and in a joke of a ruling the court refused to order a copy produced. One of the provisions to produce it is if there is sufficient public interest to overide the privacy interest. The court ruled there was insufficient interest to threaten the privacy interests of the Hawaiian people. Right, there have been so many instances of similar requests. Insert the legal term for pantloand. I understand that case is up on appeal.

Alan Keyes case is progressing in California Sacramento Superior Court.

As incredible as it seems the Democratic party utterly failed in their obligation to vet Obama before they placed his name on the primary ballot. It was no surprise to the Democratic committee as Hillary was raising this issue as early as last February, but both the Democratic Party and Obama stonewalled the issue, with Obama finally producing a worthless document to several pro-Obama websites and the Democratic Party and Obama declared him a “natural born citizen”.

As the State of Hawaii has announced they are holding the original birth certificate, the burning question is why Obama has not paid the $10.00 and produced a copy of it. Maine Skeptic and others will trot out a line of BS that the State cannot do that anymore, blah blah. Utterly ridiculous. It would not take much for someone to go in and produce a certified copy of that document.

So hopefully Obama will be required to come out of the shadows and produce the relevant documents that show he is a natural born citizen and this can be put to rest. If not cases and actions will continue as the longer this goes on the more it looks like Obama is not a natural born citizen, and could in fact be the first illegal alien elected to the office.

“Yet Teach pulls back those conspiracy theories right after airing them.”

That is only because you mock artists insist on ha ha ha ha ha!!!! – ing every time a legitimate question of “show me the data” comes up with your favorite guy.

Oh, is that what you do when you get pulled over for speeding?… Sorry Officer, if you would like to see my drivers license, you'll have to visit my good buddy's website. Oh and never mind that the number is blacked out and such. No, never mind those details. It's on a website, that makes it legit! Give me a break.

I understand you love the guy and all, but hey, this IS the country we're talking about.

This is why I miss reading you at reason: the birther posts. Moreso, the comments they generate.

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So, uh, why doesn't the campaign clear away the ambiguity, and just address the questions?

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Obama will not produce a Birth Certificate. He has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawsuits to keep the document from becoming public.

Isn't that alone enough to reveal that he is indeed hiding something? But no one knows what.

You can't deny this simplest of logic.

I notice you did not address all of the other documents from Obama's life that are still in hiding. School records, a possible Indonesian paasport that would have been absolutely necessary for his trip as a young adult to “visit his mother” after she had already been back in Hawaii for nearly 2 years to process her divorce.
It all seems a little fishy. But you go ahead and hide your head in the sand. I would rather know the answers to the questions than live in ambiguity.
PS I was born in Hawaii and his paperwork looks nothing like my “long form”. This ter is deceiving since all of my info fits on a peice of paper sized at 8-1/2″ x 5-1/2″ and includes the hospital name, doctors name and a variety of signatures.

Ever played poker? If you say you have winning hand you have to show your cards! If not throw in your cards face down and fold. Mr. President, Show your hand of fold.

That document BO claims is his birth certificate is not; it's a certification of live birth. Read it carefully; words have meaning. It does nothing more than certify a live birth.

Hawaiian law allows for the registration of foreign born children. Maya Soetoro's birth is also registered there.

Hawaiian officials have stated there is a birth certificate on file for BO. What they don't say is that it is a Hawaiian birth certificate.

In 1967 BO was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. When he entered school in Indonesia he was listed as Barry Soetoro, Lolo Soetoro as his father; his citizenship as Indonesian. The Soetoro divorce papers list Barry as the legal child of Lolo Soeotor.

So why wasn't the birth certificate on file in Hawaii changed to reflect BO's legal father and new name? Maybe because the birth certificate on file wasn't issued by Hawaii. As such Hawaii would have no legal obligation to seal the old birth certificate and issue a new one.

If you haven't looked at your own birth certificate lately, maybe you should. Look and see if your father's race is listed as “American”. If not, why does the Certification of Live Birth list the race of BO's father as “African”? Still thing the COLB is authentic? And even if it were authentic, which it's not, it is obviously not factually correct.

When BO became an Indonesian citizen, he lost any citizenship he had in any other country as Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii becomes moot.

The best BO can be is naturalized. There is no proof he is even that. If he is not naturalized, he is an illegal alien.

The four Tennessee Representatives are fighting for the rights of every American. Maybe, instead of ridiculing and mocking, you should be supporting. As liberals like to point out, if BO has nothing to hide, he will produce his documents, all of them.

As for your claim that BO hasn't paid over $1M in fees trying to keep this out of the public eye, you provide no proof that he hasn't accept to erroneously claim that it's “utter myth.”

Your commentary is devoid of fact, full of mockery and ridicule; what liberals always do when they can't debate the issues.

You must be afraid to have an honest debate on the subject, because you stoop to ridiculing those who are, as the constitution provides them the right to do, asking the president to honor the US constitution, and verify that he is a natural born citizen. The founders had a very good reason to include in the constitution, that a president be a natural born citizen, which means he is obligated to prove this. They wanted to ensure that any president does not have divided loyalties, to another country.

A true democrat is not one who feels they are above the law, only fascists and despots act in that way. Are you inferring that you support a president who feels above the rule of law, and who refuses to honor the oath of office he took, to uphold the constitution? Just as it was wrong when Bush acted as though he was above the law, it is wrong for Obama to try to get away with it.

I don't know anything about this Andy Martin you're talking about, but Phil Berg, who I have read something about, not only isn't a Jew hater, he's a Jewish man. A lifelong democrat, a former AG and he's been active in campaigning for democrats, and democratic issues all his life. You're employing the tactics of the neo-cons and the radical, extremist left, with your attempt to defame legitimate questions, asked by citizens who have every right to have their constitutional rights respected and upheld. When you behave the way you are, you are no different than any of Hitler's nazi's, Mussolini's fascists and Stalin, Lenin and Mao's Marxist thugs, speaking of which, all of those monsters I've referenced just now, all were radical, extremist leftists, and the hundreds of millions of innocent human beings they slaughtered, were again, the acts of the leftist exteme. As was the censorship, brutality, persecution and enslavement of innocents that their regimes were known for.

Obama has never presented a legal, notarized long form (or short form, the one provided to factcheck.org, was a forgery or fake, that has been proven) of his birth certificate, one has to ask why? Citizens all across this country, every day are required to provide one, and they aren't given a free pass to avoid doing so. A legal, notarized copy of the long form birth certificate costs at most, $12., and does not present any hardship to anyone. Yet, Obama has spent one million dollars in legal fees trying to avoid having to present a copy of his birth certificate, or even the one he gave to the Annenberg Foundation's, factcheck.org (one wonders why Obama would only show the fake he did to Annenberg, was it that he has a long history of working with them, and felt confident they would provide him cover?). Not even when Supreme Court Justice Souter ordered Obama to supply one.

Are you saying that Obama is above the law? If so, then you do not respect the constitution, or the rights and freedoms of the American people, and as such are little more than a coward.

You must be afraid to have an honest debate on the subject, because you stoop to ridiculing those who are, as the constitution provides them the right to do, asking the president to honor the US constitution, and verify that he is a natural born citizen. The founders had a very good reason to include in the constitution, that a president be a natural born citizen, which means he is obligated to prove this. They wanted to ensure that any president does not have divided loyalties, to another country.

A true democrat is not one who feels they are above the law, only fascists and despots act in that way. Are you inferring that you support a president who feels above the rule of law, and who refuses to honor the oath of office he took, to uphold the constitution? Just as it was wrong when Bush acted as though he was above the law, it is wrong for Obama to try to get away with it.

I don't know anything about this Andy Martin you're talking about, but Phil Berg, who I have read something about, not only isn't a Jew hater, he's a Jewish man. A lifelong democrat, a former AG and he's been active in campaigning for democrats, and democratic issues all his life. You're employing the tactics of the neo-cons and the radical, extremist left, with your attempt to defame legitimate questions, asked by citizens who have every right to have their constitutional rights respected and upheld. When you behave the way you are, you are no different than any of Hitler's nazi's, Mussolini's fascists and Stalin, Lenin and Mao's Marxist thugs, speaking of which, all of those monsters I've referenced just now, all were radical, extremist leftists, and the hundreds of millions of innocent human beings they slaughtered, were again, the acts of the leftist exteme. As was the censorship, brutality, persecution and enslavement of innocents that their regimes were known for.

Obama has never presented a legal, notarized long form (or short form, the one provided to factcheck.org, was a forgery or fake, that has been proven) of his birth certificate, one has to ask why? Citizens all across this country, every day are required to provide one, and they aren't given a free pass to avoid doing so. A legal, notarized copy of the long form birth certificate costs at most, $12., and does not present any hardship to anyone. Yet, Obama has spent one million dollars in legal fees trying to avoid having to present a copy of his birth certificate, or even the one he gave to the Annenberg Foundation's, factcheck.org (one wonders why Obama would only show the fake he did to Annenberg, was it that he has a long history of working with them, and felt confident they would provide him cover?). Not even when Supreme Court Justice Souter ordered Obama to supply one.

Are you saying that Obama is above the law? If so, then you do not respect the constitution, or the rights and freedoms of the American people, and as such are little more than a coward.