Back To Uzbekistan?

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Friday, February 06, 2009 at 9:45 am

I doubted yesterday that the Obama administration would seek a return to the Karshi-Khanabad air base in Uzbekistan — the government of Islam Karimov kicked the United States out in 2005 after the Bush administration admirably denounced one of his civilian massacres — but it seems I was wrong about that. In the aftermath of losing Kyrgyzstan’s Manas air base, a key staging ground for resupplying the Afghanistan war, necessity is evidently trumping human rights. Then again, as Michael Tomasky points out, it’s not like Kyrgyzstan’s human rights record is much better than Uzbekistan’s, so we’re probably wrong to elevate this to the level of principle.

Still, dealing with Karimov is unseemly. The Wall Street Journal reports that alternatives to both Manas and Karshi Khanabad include bases in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates — neither of which are flourishing liberal democracies, but also aren’t egregious human rights violators to the degree Uzbekistan is. Both, of course, are much further from Afghanistan than Uzbekistan is. Not that I know the first thing about how to determine what is and isn’t a suitable air base.

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Joshua Foust
Comment posted February 6, 2009 @ 9:04 am

Oh c'mon Spencer — Kyrgyzstan's human rights record is WAYYYYY better than Uzbekistan's. To equate the two is ridiculous, a different in kind not just degree. If all Tomasky can pull up is a wikipedia article with no other commentary on the actual conditions within both countries, that's just freaking lazy.

Same for you, too. Do your homework — the two are very different places, and Kyrgyzstan is a fundamentally better place than Uzbekistan (that is, when it comes to government).


Jaff Sassani
Comment posted February 8, 2009 @ 9:50 am

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Jaff Sassani
Comment posted February 8, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

The US to pursue of missile shield and The Start of the New Cold Wars

The new US Administrations’ are going to start new cold wars if they are going to adopt the old policy of the USA. The policy of the US to pursue missile shield will push the Russian much closer to the alliance with Iran and other Islamic countries in Middle East and greater Asia. For Russian to commit suicide by supporting their future enemies; should be blamed on the EU whom was not able to bring Russian in as partner of the civilized world. The Russian under Mr. Putin’s could be persuaded if the US Government assuring the Russian of true partnerships likes UK, France, Germany and other EU nations. These options are more beneficial than cold wars and animosity with the Russians.
The Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) will acquire the Atomic Bomb soon with the help of Russians and other greedy people around the world. The outcomes of this cold war are not going to be successful like the last one. The US Government and EU are not having the monopoly to control the economy of the world and they are facing semi democratic system in Russia, “Muslim World” and China.
The Russian are going to pay for the mistakes if they are going to follow through supporting IRI. They are going to lose more territory and have enemy next door from them. They are going to lose more than the USA and EU in the regions.
The world are hungry for peace and rebuilding economy, environments cleaning, commerce and cooperation’s instead of revenge taking and preparing for wars against each others.
We are calling on the US Government to treat us Iranian like they treated Western Europe after World War II. We want to over through the IRI peacefully and establish the rule of law and freedom within our country Iran first. We want help to establish “Economic Union” with the independent for each nation within that “Economic Union”. The establishment of the “Economic Union” from Pakistan to Turkey and from Kurdistan to former Soviet Union countries should be the policy of the new US government in the Middle East and greater Asia. This policy will defeat extremist like IRI and terrorist organizations in our region.
The Arabs already has such a union. The Us Government should help the Arab countries to reform their own system of Government in favor of the Arab people. The Arab people do need democratic system like Kuwait for example to be part of the Government.
The next step the US Government should go through the Arab Union to make permanent peace between the Arabs and Israel.
We are hoping for the overhaul of the US Government foreign policy in our regions and the world. For the USA Treat other nations right like you are treating the EU people are the best way for the success of the USA people around the world.

Sincerely,
Jaff Sassani
From the SKDC
jaff.skdc@googlemail.com
http://www.jaff-sassanie.com/ShowContent.aspx?i…


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