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		<title>By: knowbuddhau</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/28954/executive-compensation-limits-the-loopholes/comment-page-1#comment-37298</link>
		<dc:creator>knowbuddhau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So the 21st guy on the list who knowingly gave inaccurate figures, and was paid a &lt;br&gt;bonus for the fib, gets to keep that bonus.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isn&#039;t this the method revealed by John Perkins in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?  Lots of happy talk about how putting people into houses they couldn&#039;t afford was going to work out just swell, now it&#039;s time to pay off the hit men, the AIG Financial Products unit in London, among others, that took the wind-up key of the global economy and twisted like mad until they broke the globe.&lt;br&gt;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~&lt;br&gt;AMY GOODMAN: So what were your conversations at the time with other so-called economic hit men? I mean, you became the chief consultant at Charles Main.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOHN PERKINS: Chief economist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Chief economist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOHN PERKINS: Right. Well, you know, when I was with other people that—we could be sitting at a table, say, in the Hotel Panama, knowing that we’re both here to win these guys over, but we also had our official jobs, which were to do studies on the economy, to show how if the country accepted the loan, it was going to improve its gross national product. We would talk about those kinds of things. It’s, I suspect, a little bit like if two CIA agents, spies, get together or have a beer together, they don’t really talk about what they’re really doing beneath the surface, but they’ve got an official job, too, and that’s what you focus on. And, in fact, the two, in my case, are very closely linked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So we were producing these economic reports that would prove to the World Bank and would prove to Omar Torrijos that if he accepted these huge loans, then his country’s gross national product would just mushroom and pull his people out of poverty. And we produced these reports, which made sense from a mathematical econometric standpoint. And, in fact, it often happened that with these loans, the GNP, the gross national product, did increase.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what also was true, and what Omar knew and Jaime Roldos knew and I was coming to know very strongly, was that even if the general economy increased, the poor people with these loans would get poorer. The rich would make all the money, because most of the poor people weren’t even tied into the gross national product. A lot of them didn’t even make income. They were living off subsistence farming. They benefited nothing, but they were left holding the debt, and because of these huge debts, their country in the long term would not be able to provide them with healthcare, education and other social services.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perkins_on_the_secret_history&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perki...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So the 21st guy on the list who knowingly gave inaccurate figures, and was paid a <br />bonus for the fib, gets to keep that bonus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#39;t this the method revealed by John Perkins in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?  Lots of happy talk about how putting people into houses they couldn&#39;t afford was going to work out just swell, now it&#39;s time to pay off the hit men, the AIG Financial Products unit in London, among others, that took the wind-up key of the global economy and twisted like mad until they broke the globe.<br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />AMY GOODMAN: So what were your conversations at the time with other so-called economic hit men? I mean, you became the chief consultant at Charles Main.</p>
<p>JOHN PERKINS: Chief economist.</p>
<p>AMY GOODMAN: Chief economist.</p>
<p>JOHN PERKINS: Right. Well, you know, when I was with other people that—we could be sitting at a table, say, in the Hotel Panama, knowing that we’re both here to win these guys over, but we also had our official jobs, which were to do studies on the economy, to show how if the country accepted the loan, it was going to improve its gross national product. We would talk about those kinds of things. It’s, I suspect, a little bit like if two CIA agents, spies, get together or have a beer together, they don’t really talk about what they’re really doing beneath the surface, but they’ve got an official job, too, and that’s what you focus on. And, in fact, the two, in my case, are very closely linked.</p>
<p>So we were producing these economic reports that would prove to the World Bank and would prove to Omar Torrijos that if he accepted these huge loans, then his country’s gross national product would just mushroom and pull his people out of poverty. And we produced these reports, which made sense from a mathematical econometric standpoint. And, in fact, it often happened that with these loans, the GNP, the gross national product, did increase.</p>
<p>But what also was true, and what Omar knew and Jaime Roldos knew and I was coming to know very strongly, was that even if the general economy increased, the poor people with these loans would get poorer. The rich would make all the money, because most of the poor people weren’t even tied into the gross national product. A lot of them didn’t even make income. They were living off subsistence farming. They benefited nothing, but they were left holding the debt, and because of these huge debts, their country in the long term would not be able to provide them with healthcare, education and other social services.  <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perkins_on_the_secret_history" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perki&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: knowbuddhau</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/28954/executive-compensation-limits-the-loopholes/comment-page-1#comment-22791</link>
		<dc:creator>knowbuddhau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So the 21st guy on the list who knowingly gave inaccurate figures, and was paid a &lt;br&gt;bonus for the fib, gets to keep that bonus.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isn&#039;t this the method revealed by John Perkins in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Job?  Lots of happy talk about how putting people into houses they couldn&#039;t afford was going to work out just swell, now it&#039;s time to pay off the hit men, the AIG Financial Products unit in London, among others, that took the wind-up key of the global economy and twisted like make until they broke the globe.&lt;br&gt;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~&lt;br&gt;AMY GOODMAN: So what were your conversations at the time with other so-called economic hit men? I mean, you became the chief consultant at Charles Main.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOHN PERKINS: Chief economist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Chief economist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOHN PERKINS: Right. Well, you know, when I was with other people that—we could be sitting at a table, say, in the Hotel Panama, knowing that we’re both here to win these guys over, but we also had our official jobs, which were to do studies on the economy, to show how if the country accepted the loan, it was going to improve its gross national product. We would talk about those kinds of things. It’s, I suspect, a little bit like if two CIA agents, spies, get together or have a beer together, they don’t really talk about what they’re really doing beneath the surface, but they’ve got an official job, too, and that’s what you focus on. And, in fact, the two, in my case, are very closely linked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So we were producing these economic reports that would prove to the World Bank and would prove to Omar Torrijos that if he accepted these huge loans, then his country’s gross national product would just mushroom and pull his people out of poverty. And we produced these reports, which made sense from a mathematical econometric standpoint. And, in fact, it often happened that with these loans, the GNP, the gross national product, did increase.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what also was true, and what Omar knew and Jaime Roldos knew and I was coming to know very strongly, was that even if the general economy increased, the poor people with these loans would get poorer. The rich would make all the money, because most of the poor people weren’t even tied into the gross national product. A lot of them didn’t even make income. They were living off subsistence farming. They benefited nothing, but they were left holding the debt, and because of these huge debts, their country in the long term would not be able to provide them with healthcare, education and other social services.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perkins_on_the_secret_history&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perki...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So the 21st guy on the list who knowingly gave inaccurate figures, and was paid a <br />bonus for the fib, gets to keep that bonus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#39;t this the method revealed by John Perkins in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Job?  Lots of happy talk about how putting people into houses they couldn&#39;t afford was going to work out just swell, now it&#39;s time to pay off the hit men, the AIG Financial Products unit in London, among others, that took the wind-up key of the global economy and twisted like make until they broke the globe.<br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />AMY GOODMAN: So what were your conversations at the time with other so-called economic hit men? I mean, you became the chief consultant at Charles Main.</p>
<p>JOHN PERKINS: Chief economist.</p>
<p>AMY GOODMAN: Chief economist.</p>
<p>JOHN PERKINS: Right. Well, you know, when I was with other people that—we could be sitting at a table, say, in the Hotel Panama, knowing that we’re both here to win these guys over, but we also had our official jobs, which were to do studies on the economy, to show how if the country accepted the loan, it was going to improve its gross national product. We would talk about those kinds of things. It’s, I suspect, a little bit like if two CIA agents, spies, get together or have a beer together, they don’t really talk about what they’re really doing beneath the surface, but they’ve got an official job, too, and that’s what you focus on. And, in fact, the two, in my case, are very closely linked.</p>
<p>So we were producing these economic reports that would prove to the World Bank and would prove to Omar Torrijos that if he accepted these huge loans, then his country’s gross national product would just mushroom and pull his people out of poverty. And we produced these reports, which made sense from a mathematical econometric standpoint. And, in fact, it often happened that with these loans, the GNP, the gross national product, did increase.</p>
<p>But what also was true, and what Omar knew and Jaime Roldos knew and I was coming to know very strongly, was that even if the general economy increased, the poor people with these loans would get poorer. The rich would make all the money, because most of the poor people weren’t even tied into the gross national product. A lot of them didn’t even make income. They were living off subsistence farming. They benefited nothing, but they were left holding the debt, and because of these huge debts, their country in the long term would not be able to provide them with healthcare, education and other social services.  <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perkins_on_the_secret_history" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/5/john_perki&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lillis</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/28954/executive-compensation-limits-the-loopholes/comment-page-1#comment-17796</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Lillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still the rule. President Clinton signed the law in &#039;93, so you&#039;re right: companies have incentives to pay executives in bonuses rather than enormous salaries. But would they care so much about the tax incentive if the alternative was losing folks they want to keep? Maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still the rule. President Clinton signed the law in &#39;93, so you&#39;re right: companies have incentives to pay executives in bonuses rather than enormous salaries. But would they care so much about the tax incentive if the alternative was losing folks they want to keep? Maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: shochhauser</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/28954/executive-compensation-limits-the-loopholes/comment-page-1#comment-17731</link>
		<dc:creator>shochhauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall reading some years ago that the IRS did not allow corporations to deduct executive compensation above $1M annually unless it was tied to performance.  Was that the rule, and is it still the rule?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading some years ago that the IRS did not allow corporations to deduct executive compensation above $1M annually unless it was tied to performance.  Was that the rule, and is it still the rule?</p>
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		<title>By: lil</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/28954/executive-compensation-limits-the-loopholes/comment-page-1#comment-17555</link>
		<dc:creator>lil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the emperor has no clothes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the emperor has no clothes</p>
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