Everyone Rebrand Defense Spending As Stimulative!

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 11:20 am

Here’s something to keep an eye on over the next few months: Defense Secretary Bob Gates challenged Congress to help him rein in wasteful defense spending. But some senators are already indicating that they may try and shoehorn defense spending into the stimulus package.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) first asked whether there were “shovel ready” defense projects that should be included in the stimulus, “things we have to spend money on anyway.” Gates replied that he had submitted some thoughts to the White House after President Obama solicited them from him. These would be projects like constructing or renovating “military hospitals, clinics, barracks and childcare centers,” Gates said.

It wasn’t really enough for Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Chambliss brought up the Air Force’s notoriously wasteful F-22 Raptor fighter jet, “just as an example” — charitable of him! — and said that “if we shut down that line, we’re talking about a loss of 95,000 jobs.” (Lockheed Martin, manufacturer of the F-22, has a facility in Marietta, Ga., that assembles the jet’s forward fusillage.) He argued that “if we truly want to stimulate the economy, there’s no better place to do that than defense spending.” So much for health care, green jobs, infrastructure, etc.

Gates was pretty noncommittal. The facilities-construction jobs were the ones he emphasized in terms of stimulus-related defense spending. But when the defense budget comes forward in April, this is definitely something to look out for.

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16 Comments

Trevor Bacon
Comment posted January 27, 2009 @ 12:00 pm

Another War perhaps? Just Blindfold the president and and get him to stick a pin in a map of the world then look through Cheney's little book of reasons to attack and off we we go. Don't worry Guys we will be right behind you here in the UK, our economies down the crapper as well. What better way to stimulate the economy than to make lots of things that with any luck will get blown up. Better than those bridges, roads and schools, they could be around for a very long time.


Oscar
Comment posted January 28, 2009 @ 6:39 am

Lockheed Martin is one of Chambliss' biggest campaign contributors. As such anything he says on this matter is tainted with self interest. For example, he claims that 95,000 jobs are on the line. It's not as if Lockheed Martin is going to go out of business if we quit making F-22's.

He is correct that if our only goal was to quickly stimulate our economy, the production of bombs and military equipment would be an efficient method. However, when we “invest” in weapons produciton the end product of that “investment” is the creation of a product that destroys capital (usually other people's capital).


rufus
Comment posted January 30, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

I think I would rather pay taxes for new fighter jets than for bowling alleys and furniture production. When the terrorists come to take us own because Obama let them know we are totally unwilling to fight, just to talk, I think the fighters might give us a better fighting chance to defend our country than hitting the jihaddists over the head with a green table leg.


Anon
Comment posted January 30, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

Rufus exemplifies the kind of stupid that's ruled us for way too long. Right now, “the terrorists” have “come over here” with “box cutters,” weapons against which “bowling pins” would be far more “effective” than “fighter jets.”

As the heroes on Flight 93 proved.


Nina
Comment posted January 30, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

Come on, Republicans, stop being so stupid. I don't want you to die out completely with all this stupidity and live in a one party state. That's where you're heading.


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chuck
Comment posted January 31, 2009 @ 7:58 am

Saxby never stunned anybody with his brilliance. I guess he wants to keep his title as stupidest member of Congress…..


epic
Comment posted January 31, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

“when the terrorists come to take us (d)own” what?…whatever their ultimate goal a F-22 raptor isn't going to make their job any more difficult…'damn if only they did have those billion dollar super jets our plans would be fool proof”


ModerateWarrior
Comment posted February 5, 2009 @ 8:56 am

As a retired AF officer who has served/fought in action against everything from large enemy AF's to terrorists to flying cover for peacekeeping as well as the UN, I must waive the TOTAL BS flag! F-22s are as necessary as nuke subs, HUMVEEs and bullet-proof vests. Stop engaging in THIS WAR MYOPIA!! We MUST INVEST in modernizing all of the military to defend us against danger in the entire spectrum of potential conflict. The F-22 and its brother the F-35 will deter and if necessary win a conventional conflict and prevent those conflicts from going nuclear. Your jobs argument is BS too. The workers are exercising their 1st Amendment right to petition the government . Our nation's AF needs 60-200 more F-22s and over 30 campaign studies validate that requirement. Spew your anti-military venom if you will, but the uniformed military needs the new equipment (AF and Navy) since they sacrificed much of that modernization to fight the current 2 wars. Let's not repeat the huge mistakes of the post-VietNam era.


ModerateWarrior
Comment posted February 5, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

As a retired AF officer who has served/fought in action against everything from large enemy AF's to terrorists to flying cover for peacekeeping as well as the UN, I must waive the TOTAL BS flag! F-22s are as necessary as nuke subs, HUMVEEs and bullet-proof vests. Stop engaging in THIS WAR MYOPIA!! We MUST INVEST in modernizing all of the military to defend us against danger in the entire spectrum of potential conflict. The F-22 and its brother the F-35 will deter and if necessary win a conventional conflict and prevent those conflicts from going nuclear. Your jobs argument is BS too. The workers are exercising their 1st Amendment right to petition the government . Our nation's AF needs 60-200 more F-22s and over 30 campaign studies validate that requirement. Spew your anti-military venom if you will, but the uniformed military needs the new equipment (AF and Navy) since they sacrificed much of that modernization to fight the current 2 wars. Let's not repeat the huge mistakes of the post-VietNam era.


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