Comments on: Progressives Launch Attack on Afghanistan http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan National News in Context Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:40:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? « Get Afghanistan Right http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-24461 Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? « Get Afghanistan Right Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:35:19 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-24461 [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...] [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...]

]]> By: Video: Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-21613 Video: Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:16:57 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-21613 [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...] [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...]

]]> By: Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? - The Seminal :: Independent Media and Politics http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-21527 Is Progressive Pressure Affecting Afghanistan Policy? - The Seminal :: Independent Media and Politics Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:00:59 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-21527 [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...] [...] has given the President a powerful, consistent message since he took office. Spencer Ackerman noted skepticism from progressive lawmakers in January: There has…been a recent vein of skepticism emerging from within Democratic foreign-policy [...]

]]> By: sloLes http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-34485 sloLes Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:14:36 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-34485 SoD Gates has already said that the Taliban cannot be defeated, they need to negotiated with, and we'll eventually need to compromise with them. Why not do that sooner rather than later? SoD Gates has already said that the Taliban cannot be defeated, they need to negotiated with, and we'll eventually need to compromise with them. Why not do that sooner rather than later?

]]> By: sloLes http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16945 sloLes Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:14:36 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16945 SoD Gates has already said that the Taliban cannot be defeated, they need to negotiated with, and we'll eventually need to compromise with them. Why not do that sooner rather than later? SoD Gates has already said that the Taliban cannot be defeated, they need to negotiated with, and we'll eventually need to compromise with them. Why not do that sooner rather than later?

]]> By: Jaff Sassani http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16454 Jaff Sassani Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:28:09 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16454 Stop the process of Kurdish Genocide in Turkey<br><br>Israeli Government and Jewish lobbyist in Europe and America are helping Turks of Turkey for the Kurds Genocides in Turkey. Kurdish traders’ like Barzani, Talabani, Zebari and Barham Salah are partners of that crime against the Humanity.<br> We are asking President Obama to correct the wrong policy of the US government in the Middle East. The lobbyists in America are supporting Turkey to make money. They are calming that Turkey is fighting terrorist organizations of PKK only. PKK are not violent organizations any more. They are asking the Turks of Turkey for peaceful settlement of Kurdish right in Turkey.<br>The Turks of Turkey are insisting to continue with the wars. The Turks of Turkey are hiring Israeli Government, Europeans and American lobbyist, Traders Barzani and Talabani mafia groups to finish of the Kurdish populations in Turkey.<br>Since the collapse of the former Soviet Union the Turks of Turkey killed and displaced at least ten million Kurds in Kurdistan region of Turkey. We are appealing to you directly Mr. President Obama to stop this unjust practice by Turkey.<br>We are calling on the Kurdish people world wide to join Eraiain liberations movement to stop the Turks and Israel plans for our people’s Genocide in Kurdistan of Turkey. Stop the process of Kurdish Genocide in Turkey

Israeli Government and Jewish lobbyist in Europe and America are helping Turks of Turkey for the Kurds Genocides in Turkey. Kurdish traders’ like Barzani, Talabani, Zebari and Barham Salah are partners of that crime against the Humanity.
We are asking President Obama to correct the wrong policy of the US government in the Middle East. The lobbyists in America are supporting Turkey to make money. They are calming that Turkey is fighting terrorist organizations of PKK only. PKK are not violent organizations any more. They are asking the Turks of Turkey for peaceful settlement of Kurdish right in Turkey.
The Turks of Turkey are insisting to continue with the wars. The Turks of Turkey are hiring Israeli Government, Europeans and American lobbyist, Traders Barzani and Talabani mafia groups to finish of the Kurdish populations in Turkey.
Since the collapse of the former Soviet Union the Turks of Turkey killed and displaced at least ten million Kurds in Kurdistan region of Turkey. We are appealing to you directly Mr. President Obama to stop this unjust practice by Turkey.
We are calling on the Kurdish people world wide to join Eraiain liberations movement to stop the Turks and Israel plans for our people’s Genocide in Kurdistan of Turkey.

]]> By: sikander http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16445 sikander Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:01 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16445 For More information about Pakistan, please visit <a href="http://real-politique.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://real-politique.blogspot.com</a> For More information about Pakistan, please visit http://real-politique.blogspot.com

]]> By: Afghanistan-Pakistan « jeb sharp - work in progress http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16266 Afghanistan-Pakistan « jeb sharp - work in progress Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:32:22 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16266 [...] Also–here’s Spencer Ackerman on the wisdom of those extra 30,000 troops… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Pakistan welcomes appointment of U.S. envoyFacing Reality in Afghanistan: Talking with the TalibanEnvoy to Afghanistan namedBomb Kills 3 U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan [...] [...] Also–here’s Spencer Ackerman on the wisdom of those extra 30,000 troops… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Pakistan welcomes appointment of U.S. envoyFacing Reality in Afghanistan: Talking with the TalibanEnvoy to Afghanistan namedBomb Kills 3 U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan [...]

]]> By: Veterans For America » News Analysis: January 26, 2009 http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16227 Veterans For America » News Analysis: January 26, 2009 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:26:24 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16227 [...] into the war that is likely to rage on for years to come. The terrain isn’t helping. And another front in the war is opening up, at home. Hopefully feeding the children of Afghanistan helps set the stage for eventual peace. But what of [...] [...] into the war that is likely to rage on for years to come. The terrain isn’t helping. And another front in the war is opening up, at home. Hopefully feeding the children of Afghanistan helps set the stage for eventual peace. But what of [...]

]]> By: John Woodward http://washingtonindependent.com/27073/progressives-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-16170 John Woodward Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:23:43 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=27073#comment-16170 Afghanistan is not a nation in the sense that western nations think of a nation. It is, rather a loosely knit coalition of tribes whose loyalties shift with the circumstance of the moment. Many of them are often at war with each other. A central government is never in control of the entire country, and its power ebbs and flows with the whims of various powerful sheiks. The one thing that unites them (if only on a temporary basis) is the presence of a foreign invader. Alexander and his Greeks found out about this the hard way. He barely made it through the Kyber Pass with a badly mauled army.<br>The British tried to pacify the place for about a hundred years without success. Then the Russians had a go at them, also without success. Now we are there, offering a multitude of new targets for them to shoot at. If there is any truth to the saying " those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it" our chances of military success there are not very good.<br>This dismal picture is further complicated by the fact that Afghanistan and Pakistan do not have a border as western nations know one. The border as drawn on the map is merely a piece of paper that is totally ignored by the tribesmen in the area. The line on the map which supposedly represent the boundary of the two countries goes right through the tribal territories of the two most powerful tribes in the area, the Masud and the Afridi. I have unwittingly walked across this "border" on several occasions unaware of it untill my surveyor informed me that we were in Afghanistan. How do you know that? I asked. I was informed we had passed a rock cairn which our guide said was supposed to represent it. Afghanistan is not a nation in the sense that western nations think of a nation. It is, rather a loosely knit coalition of tribes whose loyalties shift with the circumstance of the moment. Many of them are often at war with each other. A central government is never in control of the entire country, and its power ebbs and flows with the whims of various powerful sheiks. The one thing that unites them (if only on a temporary basis) is the presence of a foreign invader. Alexander and his Greeks found out about this the hard way. He barely made it through the Kyber Pass with a badly mauled army.
The British tried to pacify the place for about a hundred years without success. Then the Russians had a go at them, also without success. Now we are there, offering a multitude of new targets for them to shoot at. If there is any truth to the saying ” those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it” our chances of military success there are not very good.
This dismal picture is further complicated by the fact that Afghanistan and Pakistan do not have a border as western nations know one. The border as drawn on the map is merely a piece of paper that is totally ignored by the tribesmen in the area. The line on the map which supposedly represent the boundary of the two countries goes right through the tribal territories of the two most powerful tribes in the area, the Masud and the Afridi. I have unwittingly walked across this “border” on several occasions unaware of it untill my surveyor informed me that we were in Afghanistan. How do you know that? I asked. I was informed we had passed a rock cairn which our guide said was supposed to represent it.

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