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		<title>By: laidlerj</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>laidlerj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brant,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could you provide some idea of where you found the study you mentioned? How were you able to find it when it was supposedly &quot;suppressed&quot;? Clearly, government conspiracies aren&#039;t very effective if you were able to find evidence of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you&#039;re referring to the &quot;infamous&quot; Simpsonwood meeting that RFK Jr. wrote about, you should go read the transcript (hint: it&#039;s on the SafeMinds website). It&#039;s 286 pages long, but you should read it in its entirety before you &quot;believe&quot; what RFK Jr. wrote about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant,</p>
<p>Could you provide some idea of where you found the study you mentioned? How were you able to find it when it was supposedly &quot;suppressed&quot;? Clearly, government conspiracies aren&#39;t very effective if you were able to find evidence of it.</p>
<p>If you&#39;re referring to the &quot;infamous&quot; Simpsonwood meeting that RFK Jr. wrote about, you should go read the transcript (hint: it&#39;s on the SafeMinds website). It&#39;s 286 pages long, but you should read it in its entirety before you &quot;believe&quot; what RFK Jr. wrote about it.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: lrandall</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>lrandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brant,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe you don&#039;t know that eight large studies conducted on vast populations of children in Europe and the U.S. have looked for evidence of an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism.  None of them has found any such indication.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You refer to a CDC study.  After adjustment for various confounding factors, that study found no link between TCVs and autism.  It is one of those eight studies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You refer to a secret meeting.  If you are referring to the discussion of the CDC paper above held at the Simpsonwood conference center, this meeting involved fifty scientists and their support staff; a transcript was generated; and it occurred at a place of public accommodation.  That doesn&#039;t sound very secret to me.  Also, there may have been a handful of representatives of vaccine makers there, but the vast majority of participants were from academia and government.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d urge you to think critically about the claim that childhood vaccines are a moneymaker.  Except for the newest vaccines, they are so low-priced that there has been a constant danger of manufacturers finding the cost to produce them unjustified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant,</p>
<p>Maybe you don&#39;t know that eight large studies conducted on vast populations of children in Europe and the U.S. have looked for evidence of an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism.  None of them has found any such indication.</p>
<p>You refer to a CDC study.  After adjustment for various confounding factors, that study found no link between TCVs and autism.  It is one of those eight studies.</p>
<p>You refer to a secret meeting.  If you are referring to the discussion of the CDC paper above held at the Simpsonwood conference center, this meeting involved fifty scientists and their support staff; a transcript was generated; and it occurred at a place of public accommodation.  That doesn&#39;t sound very secret to me.  Also, there may have been a handful of representatives of vaccine makers there, but the vast majority of participants were from academia and government.</p>
<p>I&#39;d urge you to think critically about the claim that childhood vaccines are a moneymaker.  Except for the newest vaccines, they are so low-priced that there has been a constant danger of manufacturers finding the cost to produce them unjustified.</p>
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		<title>By: autismnewsbeat</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>autismnewsbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point is an idea so discredited that journalists will stop treating it as a legitimate, opposing point of view? No responsible news organization would quote a Klansman to balance a piece on civil rights. The 9/11 Truth nuts have been given no quarter by the popular media. Even &quot;creation science&quot; claims raise eyebrows in the newsroom. So why not the thimerosal-autism canard? It&#039;s as destructive as the notion of white supremacy. Vaccine scare mongers such as David Kirby and RFK, Jr. take as many liberties with the truth as the ironically named Truthers. And like the young-earth zealots, the Mercury Militia also bow to the God of confirmation bias with every new, crackpot &quot;study&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point is an idea so discredited that journalists will stop treating it as a legitimate, opposing point of view? No responsible news organization would quote a Klansman to balance a piece on civil rights. The 9/11 Truth nuts have been given no quarter by the popular media. Even &quot;creation science&quot; claims raise eyebrows in the newsroom. So why not the thimerosal-autism canard? It&#39;s as destructive as the notion of white supremacy. Vaccine scare mongers such as David Kirby and RFK, Jr. take as many liberties with the truth as the ironically named Truthers. And like the young-earth zealots, the Mercury Militia also bow to the God of confirmation bias with every new, crackpot &quot;study&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: arthurallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthurallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been discredited, actually, by a wealth of studies. I&#039;ve been following this story since its inception. In fact, I bear a share of responsibility for creating the mess, because I wrote a NYTimes Magazine article in 2002 &quot;The Not-so-Crackpot Autism Theory&quot; that raised the possibility that there was something to the theory of harm from thimerosal. Since then, scientific evidence has demolished the theory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve reviewed all the documents that RFK Jr. says he saw, and then some, believe me. I like the Kennedys and had only respect for Bobby Jr. until he started his misinformed rants about thimerosal, which are completely erroneous and off base. Here&#039;s an early piece of mine [http://www.slate.com/id/2123647/] in which I critiqued RFK Jr&#039;s argument. There is a ton of good evidence out there showing that thimerosal doesn&#039;t cause harm. The only people who continue to cling to the theory are a handful of scientists who bought into it and have published results of little significance in marginal journals, and a few professional court witnesses, like David and Mark Geier, who have no real expertise, publish laughably stupid papers, and treat autistic children with dangerous protocols based on unfounded scientific theories. Them, and parents (and grandparents, such as Rep Dan Burton, R-Ind., who was educated in Bible School but held 12 or so hearings into the theory without succeeding at making a dent in it) who for one reason or another need to blame someone for their child&#039;s condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been discredited, actually, by a wealth of studies. I&#39;ve been following this story since its inception. In fact, I bear a share of responsibility for creating the mess, because I wrote a NYTimes Magazine article in 2002 &quot;The Not-so-Crackpot Autism Theory&quot; that raised the possibility that there was something to the theory of harm from thimerosal. Since then, scientific evidence has demolished the theory.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve reviewed all the documents that RFK Jr. says he saw, and then some, believe me. I like the Kennedys and had only respect for Bobby Jr. until he started his misinformed rants about thimerosal, which are completely erroneous and off base. Here&#39;s an early piece of mine [http://www.slate.com/id/2123647/] in which I critiqued RFK Jr&#39;s argument. There is a ton of good evidence out there showing that thimerosal doesn&#39;t cause harm. The only people who continue to cling to the theory are a handful of scientists who bought into it and have published results of little significance in marginal journals, and a few professional court witnesses, like David and Mark Geier, who have no real expertise, publish laughably stupid papers, and treat autistic children with dangerous protocols based on unfounded scientific theories. Them, and parents (and grandparents, such as Rep Dan Burton, R-Ind., who was educated in Bible School but held 12 or so hearings into the theory without succeeding at making a dent in it) who for one reason or another need to blame someone for their child&#39;s condition.</p>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
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		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thimerasol may be one of several causes, have you thought of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thimerasol may be one of several causes, have you thought of that?</p>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
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		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has never truly been discredited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has never truly been discredited.</p>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
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		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly, a sweeping study done by the CDC, that linked autism/ADD related condition to thimerasol, that has been suppressed by the Bush administration has been studied by RFK,Jr. (whom I trust) and he says that there was a definite link between thimerasol and autism/add/related conditions. He also said that there was a big meeting of the pharmaceutical industry about that (the concerned public wasn&#039;t invited) and the study was suppressed. The gentleman that ran the study? He then went to work for Glaxxo-Smith-Klein. Thimerasol was forced out of use for livestock by law, why? And why was it voluntary for removal from human vaccines? Do you think maybe, human vaccine&#039;s net a lot more money? So, there&#039;s more money to be lost on them? I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, a sweeping study done by the CDC, that linked autism/ADD related condition to thimerasol, that has been suppressed by the Bush administration has been studied by RFK,Jr. (whom I trust) and he says that there was a definite link between thimerasol and autism/add/related conditions. He also said that there was a big meeting of the pharmaceutical industry about that (the concerned public wasn&#39;t invited) and the study was suppressed. The gentleman that ran the study? He then went to work for Glaxxo-Smith-Klein. Thimerasol was forced out of use for livestock by law, why? And why was it voluntary for removal from human vaccines? Do you think maybe, human vaccine&#39;s net a lot more money? So, there&#39;s more money to be lost on them? I do.</p>
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		<title>By: laidlerj</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>laidlerj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brant,



Could you provide some idea of where you found the study you mentioned? How were you able to find it when it was supposedly &quot;suppressed&quot;? Clearly, government conspiracies aren&#039;t very effective if you were able to find evidence of it.



If you&#039;re referring to the &quot;infamous&quot; Simpsonwood meeting that RFK Jr. wrote about, you should go read the transcript (hint: it&#039;s on the SafeMinds website). It&#039;s 286 pages long, but you should read it in its entirety before you &quot;believe&quot; what RFK Jr. wrote about it.



Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant,</p>
<p>Could you provide some idea of where you found the study you mentioned? How were you able to find it when it was supposedly &quot;suppressed&quot;? Clearly, government conspiracies aren&#8217;t very effective if you were able to find evidence of it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re referring to the &quot;infamous&quot; Simpsonwood meeting that RFK Jr. wrote about, you should go read the transcript (hint: it&#8217;s on the SafeMinds website). It&#8217;s 286 pages long, but you should read it in its entirety before you &quot;believe&quot; what RFK Jr. wrote about it.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: lrandall</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2149</link>
		<dc:creator>lrandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brant,

Maybe you don&#039;t know that eight large studies conducted on vast populations of children in Europe and the U.S. have looked for evidence of an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism.  None of them has found any such indication.

You refer to a CDC study.  After adjustment for various confounding factors, that study found no link between TCVs and autism.  It is one of those eight studies.

You refer to a secret meeting.  If you are referring to the discussion of the CDC paper above held at the Simpsonwood conference center, this meeting involved fifty scientists and their support staff; a transcript was generated; and it occurred at a place of public accommodation.  That doesn&#039;t sound very secret to me.  Also, there may have been a handful of representatives of vaccine makers there, but the vast majority of participants were from academia and government.

I&#039;d urge you to think critically about the claim that childhood vaccines are a moneymaker.  Except for the newest vaccines, they are so low-priced that there has been a constant danger of manufacturers finding the cost to produce them unjustified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant,</p>
<p>Maybe you don&#8217;t know that eight large studies conducted on vast populations of children in Europe and the U.S. have looked for evidence of an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism.  None of them has found any such indication.</p>
<p>You refer to a CDC study.  After adjustment for various confounding factors, that study found no link between TCVs and autism.  It is one of those eight studies.</p>
<p>You refer to a secret meeting.  If you are referring to the discussion of the CDC paper above held at the Simpsonwood conference center, this meeting involved fifty scientists and their support staff; a transcript was generated; and it occurred at a place of public accommodation.  That doesn&#8217;t sound very secret to me.  Also, there may have been a handful of representatives of vaccine makers there, but the vast majority of participants were from academia and government.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d urge you to think critically about the claim that childhood vaccines are a moneymaker.  Except for the newest vaccines, they are so low-priced that there has been a constant danger of manufacturers finding the cost to produce them unjustified.</p>
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		<title>By: autismnewsbeat</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2472/show-about-discredited-science-airs-tonight/comment-page-1#comment-2150</link>
		<dc:creator>autismnewsbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point is an idea so discredited that journalists will stop treating it as a legitimate, opposing point of view? No responsible news organization would quote a Klansman to balance a piece on civil rights. The 9/11 Truth nuts have been given no quarter by the popular media. Even &quot;creation science&quot; claims raise eyebrows in the newsroom. So why not the thimerosal-autism canard? It&#039;s as destructive as the notion of white supremacy. Vaccine scare mongers such as David Kirby and RFK, Jr. take as many liberties with the truth as the ironically named Truthers. And like the young-earth zealots, the Mercury Militia also bow to the God of confirmation bias with every new, crackpot &quot;study&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point is an idea so discredited that journalists will stop treating it as a legitimate, opposing point of view? No responsible news organization would quote a Klansman to balance a piece on civil rights. The 9/11 Truth nuts have been given no quarter by the popular media. Even &quot;creation science&quot; claims raise eyebrows in the newsroom. So why not the thimerosal-autism canard? It&#8217;s as destructive as the notion of white supremacy. Vaccine scare mongers such as David Kirby and RFK, Jr. take as many liberties with the truth as the ironically named Truthers. And like the young-earth zealots, the Mercury Militia also bow to the God of confirmation bias with every new, crackpot &quot;study&quot;.</p>
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