Comments on: CQ: CIA Operations Folks Dissatisfied With Panetta http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta National News in Context Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:51:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: joshquasimoto http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta/comment-page-1#comment-36625 joshquasimoto Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:40:16 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=24130#comment-36625 I read Jeff's piece in CQ, I took the comments from the former CIA officer as nothing more than the same arguement you hear throughout the business and trade world. It goes like this, "the people that build our homes, buildings and other edifices from the ground up, regulalry complain about engineers, architects and other bulding planners simply not understanding the nuts and bolts of putting things together. Managers, architects, and engineers readily complain about the workers performance, skill and ability to accomplish those plans." I had a friend who worked on an oil platform but got injured two years into his job. The company decided to keep him on and put him to work using cad to design off-shore rigs. Having worked in the manufacturing/building side of things, gave him an advantage no working on the other side of the table to plan effectively for the workers and their ability. <br><br>I would imagine that this CIA guy simply does not see Panetta as being able to understand the day to day/ nuts and bolts of how and what they do in intelligence gathering. But from everything I have rad about this pick it would seem that Admiral Blair and Sec of Def Gates will be in charge of answering those questions. Panetta is being placed there because he seems to be loyal, understanding of the legal requirments of his job and that of the CIA and because he has a history of working with many power players being a former cheif of staff. I see him as a loyal person to Obama and someone capable of feeling comfortable around the Intelligence community. It is understandable that this former CIA officer thinks Panetta is a bad pick, but most workers have problems with their managers, so I really fail to see why Panetta based on the CIA's history is a bad pick. Some of the best CIA directors have come in from outside of intelligence, notably George Bush I and some of the worst in terms of blowback and bad foreign ploicy decisions have come from the intelligence community, notable Johnson and Nixon's CIA director Helms. I read Jeff's piece in CQ, I took the comments from the former CIA officer as nothing more than the same arguement you hear throughout the business and trade world. It goes like this, “the people that build our homes, buildings and other edifices from the ground up, regulalry complain about engineers, architects and other bulding planners simply not understanding the nuts and bolts of putting things together. Managers, architects, and engineers readily complain about the workers performance, skill and ability to accomplish those plans.” I had a friend who worked on an oil platform but got injured two years into his job. The company decided to keep him on and put him to work using cad to design off-shore rigs. Having worked in the manufacturing/building side of things, gave him an advantage no working on the other side of the table to plan effectively for the workers and their ability.

I would imagine that this CIA guy simply does not see Panetta as being able to understand the day to day/ nuts and bolts of how and what they do in intelligence gathering. But from everything I have rad about this pick it would seem that Admiral Blair and Sec of Def Gates will be in charge of answering those questions. Panetta is being placed there because he seems to be loyal, understanding of the legal requirments of his job and that of the CIA and because he has a history of working with many power players being a former cheif of staff. I see him as a loyal person to Obama and someone capable of feeling comfortable around the Intelligence community. It is understandable that this former CIA officer thinks Panetta is a bad pick, but most workers have problems with their managers, so I really fail to see why Panetta based on the CIA's history is a bad pick. Some of the best CIA directors have come in from outside of intelligence, notably George Bush I and some of the worst in terms of blowback and bad foreign ploicy decisions have come from the intelligence community, notable Johnson and Nixon's CIA director Helms.

]]> By: L.P. http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta/comment-page-1#comment-36626 L.P. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:30:47 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=24130#comment-36626 That the CIA is not willing to work with the Obama administration is not new. In fact the CIA effectively warned the new president back in December not to appoint a "progressive Democrat" at its helm. Not that Panetta is that, of course, but he is not a hawk either, especially on torture.<br><br>See "Panetta’s CIA Nomination Part of Broader Obama Plan" at <a href="http://intelnews.org" rel="nofollow">intelnews.org</a> . <br><br>Chances are Panetta will receive a very frosty welcoming at the CIA. That the CIA is not willing to work with the Obama administration is not new. In fact the CIA effectively warned the new president back in December not to appoint a “progressive Democrat” at its helm. Not that Panetta is that, of course, but he is not a hawk either, especially on torture.

See “Panetta’s CIA Nomination Part of Broader Obama Plan” at intelnews.org .

Chances are Panetta will receive a very frosty welcoming at the CIA.

]]> By: joshquasimoto http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta/comment-page-1#comment-15201 joshquasimoto Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:40:16 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=24130#comment-15201 I read Jeff's piece in CQ, I took the comments from the former CIA officer as nothing more than the same arguement you hear throughout the business and trade world. It goes like this, "the people that build our homes, buildings and other edifices from the ground up, regulalry complain about engineers, architects and other bulding planners simply not understanding the nuts and bolts of putting things together. Managers, architects, and engineers readily complain about the workers performance, skill and ability to accomplish those plans." I had a friend who worked on an oil platform but got injured two years into his job. The company decided to keep him on and put him to work using cad to design off-shore rigs. Having worked in the manufacturing/building side of things, gave him an advantage no working on the other side of the table to plan effectively for the workers and their ability. <br><br>I would imagine that this CIA guy simply does not see Panetta as being able to understand the day to day/ nuts and bolts of how and what they do in intelligence gathering. But from everything I have rad about this pick it would seem that Admiral Blair and Sec of Def Gates will be in charge of answering those questions. Panetta is being placed there because he seems to be loyal, understanding of the legal requirments of his job and that of the CIA and because he has a history of working with many power players being a former cheif of staff. I see him as a loyal person to Obama and someone capable of feeling comfortable around the Intelligence community. It is understandable that this former CIA officer thinks Panetta is a bad pick, but most workers have problems with their managers, so I really fail to see why Panetta based on the CIA's history is a bad pick. Some of the best CIA directors have come in from outside of intelligence, notably George Bush I and some of the worst in terms of blowback and bad foreign ploicy decisions have come from the intelligence community, notable Johnson and Nixon's CIA director Helms. I read Jeff's piece in CQ, I took the comments from the former CIA officer as nothing more than the same arguement you hear throughout the business and trade world. It goes like this, “the people that build our homes, buildings and other edifices from the ground up, regulalry complain about engineers, architects and other bulding planners simply not understanding the nuts and bolts of putting things together. Managers, architects, and engineers readily complain about the workers performance, skill and ability to accomplish those plans.” I had a friend who worked on an oil platform but got injured two years into his job. The company decided to keep him on and put him to work using cad to design off-shore rigs. Having worked in the manufacturing/building side of things, gave him an advantage no working on the other side of the table to plan effectively for the workers and their ability.

I would imagine that this CIA guy simply does not see Panetta as being able to understand the day to day/ nuts and bolts of how and what they do in intelligence gathering. But from everything I have rad about this pick it would seem that Admiral Blair and Sec of Def Gates will be in charge of answering those questions. Panetta is being placed there because he seems to be loyal, understanding of the legal requirments of his job and that of the CIA and because he has a history of working with many power players being a former cheif of staff. I see him as a loyal person to Obama and someone capable of feeling comfortable around the Intelligence community. It is understandable that this former CIA officer thinks Panetta is a bad pick, but most workers have problems with their managers, so I really fail to see why Panetta based on the CIA's history is a bad pick. Some of the best CIA directors have come in from outside of intelligence, notably George Bush I and some of the worst in terms of blowback and bad foreign ploicy decisions have come from the intelligence community, notable Johnson and Nixon's CIA director Helms.

]]> By: PoliTrix » Blog Archive » Only Insiders Need Apply http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta/comment-page-1#comment-15183 PoliTrix » Blog Archive » Only Insiders Need Apply Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:44:09 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=24130#comment-15183 [...] Spack, CQ’s Jeff Stein finds a cool reception to the Panetta nomination among CIA operations [...] [...] Spack, CQ’s Jeff Stein finds a cool reception to the Panetta nomination among CIA operations [...]

]]> By: L.P. http://washingtonindependent.com/24130/cq-cia-operations-folk-dissatisfied-with-panetta/comment-page-1#comment-15175 L.P. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:30:47 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=24130#comment-15175 That the CIA is not willing to work with the Obama administration is not new. In fact the CIA effectively warned the new president back in December not to appoint a "progressive Democrat" at its helm. Not that Panetta is that, of course, but he is not a hawk either, especially on torture.<br><br>See "Panetta’s CIA Nomination Part of Broader Obama Plan" at <a href="http://intelnews.org" rel="nofollow">intelnews.org</a> . <br><br>Chances are Panetta will receive a very frosty welcoming at the CIA. That the CIA is not willing to work with the Obama administration is not new. In fact the CIA effectively warned the new president back in December not to appoint a “progressive Democrat” at its helm. Not that Panetta is that, of course, but he is not a hawk either, especially on torture.

See “Panetta’s CIA Nomination Part of Broader Obama Plan” at intelnews.org .

Chances are Panetta will receive a very frosty welcoming at the CIA.

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