Comments on: Study: Virginity Pledges Don’t Work http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work National News in Context Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:32:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Addicted to Unrealistic Expectations « Hungry Hungry Hippos http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14523 Addicted to Unrealistic Expectations « Hungry Hungry Hippos Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:20:49 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14523 [...] other is another recent study that shows that teenagers who take “virginity vows” are sexually active in exactly the same proportion, at exactly the same age, and with exactly the [...] [...] other is another recent study that shows that teenagers who take “virginity vows” are sexually active in exactly the same proportion, at exactly the same age, and with exactly the [...]

]]> By: Matthew DeLong http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-35980 Matthew DeLong Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:34:54 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-35980 Your logic is flawed, but I think you've put your finger on the point. The students often take the pledge as part of a sex-ed program, often abstinence-only, but it is not taken in good faith. If that is the case, what is the value of the pledge as part of a sex-ed policy? <br><br>If the reality is that the vast majority of teenagers are going to have premarital sex, whether they've participated in an abstinence-only program or not, then it makes sense to employ a reality-based policy that teaches kids how to be safe if and when they choose to become sexually active. <br><br>Denying them education about condoms and birth control only increases the likelihood that they will contract a disease or seek an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy. Your logic is flawed, but I think you've put your finger on the point. The students often take the pledge as part of a sex-ed program, often abstinence-only, but it is not taken in good faith. If that is the case, what is the value of the pledge as part of a sex-ed policy?

If the reality is that the vast majority of teenagers are going to have premarital sex, whether they've participated in an abstinence-only program or not, then it makes sense to employ a reality-based policy that teaches kids how to be safe if and when they choose to become sexually active.

Denying them education about condoms and birth control only increases the likelihood that they will contract a disease or seek an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy.

]]> By: Heather http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-35979 Heather Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:54:35 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-35979 This study seems biased. It seems they took two groups that were actually identical and then used them to say a virginity pledge does not work.<br><br>The study says that the teens in both groups had similar attitudes about sex. But if the teenagers who were taking the virginity pledge had similar attitudes towards sex, then they were not taking the pledge in good faith!<br><br>If I take 20 oranges and then label half of them as apples, why would I be surprised when I find that all 20 still taste like oranges! They intentional compared two groups of teenager who had the same attitude towards sex and then acted surprised when it turned out they had the same attitude towards sex!<br><br>Obviously this was "science" with an agenda! If the teenagers had the same attitude towards sex, then they were never intending to follow through with a virginity pledge in the first place! This study seems biased. It seems they took two groups that were actually identical and then used them to say a virginity pledge does not work.

The study says that the teens in both groups had similar attitudes about sex. But if the teenagers who were taking the virginity pledge had similar attitudes towards sex, then they were not taking the pledge in good faith!

If I take 20 oranges and then label half of them as apples, why would I be surprised when I find that all 20 still taste like oranges! They intentional compared two groups of teenager who had the same attitude towards sex and then acted surprised when it turned out they had the same attitude towards sex!

Obviously this was “science” with an agenda! If the teenagers had the same attitude towards sex, then they were never intending to follow through with a virginity pledge in the first place!

]]> By: mv http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-35981 mv Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:49:06 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-35981 i agree..its seems ur the odd one out if ur not having sex...nd if ur dating its realy difivult 2 actualy avoid the dituation of getting in2 it..im 22..n im a virgin..but with every passing day...n new people cuming in2 ur lfe...im really finding it hard to stop maself from the thought...not that u had low morals...its about times ur week n vulnerable n u fall...n another thing iv noticed id that guys always think that sex is the only way of proving that they love the girll..its only form of expression they have...n its dificult 2 get out of tht one..like seriously... i agree..its seems ur the odd one out if ur not having sex…nd if ur dating its realy difivult 2 actualy avoid the dituation of getting in2 it..im 22..n im a virgin..but with every passing day…n new people cuming in2 ur lfe…im really finding it hard to stop maself from the thought…not that u had low morals…its about times ur week n vulnerable n u fall…n another thing iv noticed id that guys always think that sex is the only way of proving that they love the girll..its only form of expression they have…n its dificult 2 get out of tht one..like seriously…

]]> By: Unsurprising News: Virginity Pledges Don’t Work « The Creature Politic http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14496 Unsurprising News: Virginity Pledges Don’t Work « The Creature Politic Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:58:18 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14496 [...] Matthew DeLong at the Washington Independent (who points out that honest pro-lifers ought to see this data as an opportunity to change their policy preferences and support measures that actually reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and STDs, like comprehensive sex education) [...] [...] Matthew DeLong at the Washington Independent (who points out that honest pro-lifers ought to see this data as an opportunity to change their policy preferences and support measures that actually reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and STDs, like comprehensive sex education) [...]

]]> By: jenny http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-35982 jenny Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:52:38 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-35982 I would completely disagree. I guess just making a pledge may not be effective. Parents have to back this up with setting limits about dating, and teaching their kids. One thing is for sure, just telling your kids to just use a condom doesn't work. All forms of birth control fail, and young people are not very good at using them. I have raised four children who managed to wait until marriage, and know many, many young adults who are waiting for marriage. I think it just depends on your level of committment. People just buy into the mind set that young people cannot wait, which is completely untrue. I would completely disagree. I guess just making a pledge may not be effective. Parents have to back this up with setting limits about dating, and teaching their kids. One thing is for sure, just telling your kids to just use a condom doesn't work. All forms of birth control fail, and young people are not very good at using them. I have raised four children who managed to wait until marriage, and know many, many young adults who are waiting for marriage. I think it just depends on your level of committment. People just buy into the mind set that young people cannot wait, which is completely untrue.

]]> By: Matthew DeLong http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14486 Matthew DeLong Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:34:54 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14486 Your logic is flawed, but I think you've put your finger on the point. The students often take the pledge as part of a sex-ed program, often abstinence-only, but it is not taken in good faith. If that is the case, what is the value of the pledge as part of a sex-ed policy? <br><br>If the reality is that the vast majority of teenagers are going to have premarital sex, whether they've participated in an abstinence-only program or not, then it makes sense to employ a reality-based policy that teaches kids how to be safe if and when they choose to become sexually active. <br><br>Denying them education about condoms and birth control only increases the likelihood that they will contract a disease or seek an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy. Your logic is flawed, but I think you've put your finger on the point. The students often take the pledge as part of a sex-ed program, often abstinence-only, but it is not taken in good faith. If that is the case, what is the value of the pledge as part of a sex-ed policy?

If the reality is that the vast majority of teenagers are going to have premarital sex, whether they've participated in an abstinence-only program or not, then it makes sense to employ a reality-based policy that teaches kids how to be safe if and when they choose to become sexually active.

Denying them education about condoms and birth control only increases the likelihood that they will contract a disease or seek an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy.

]]> By: Heather http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14482 Heather Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:54:35 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14482 This study seems biased. It seems they took two groups that were actually identical and then used them to say a virginity pledge does not work.<br><br>The study says that the teens in both groups had similar attitudes about sex. But if the teenagers who were taking the virginity pledge had similar attitudes towards sex, then they were not taking the pledge in good faith!<br><br>If I take 20 oranges and then label half of them as apples, why would I be surprised when I find that all 20 still taste like oranges! They intentional compared two groups of teenager who had the same attitude towards sex and then acted surprised when it turned out they had the same attitude towards sex!<br><br>Obviously this was "science" with an agenda! If the teenagers had the same attitude towards sex, then they were never intending to follow through with a virginity pledge in the first place! This study seems biased. It seems they took two groups that were actually identical and then used them to say a virginity pledge does not work.

The study says that the teens in both groups had similar attitudes about sex. But if the teenagers who were taking the virginity pledge had similar attitudes towards sex, then they were not taking the pledge in good faith!

If I take 20 oranges and then label half of them as apples, why would I be surprised when I find that all 20 still taste like oranges! They intentional compared two groups of teenager who had the same attitude towards sex and then acted surprised when it turned out they had the same attitude towards sex!

Obviously this was “science” with an agenda! If the teenagers had the same attitude towards sex, then they were never intending to follow through with a virginity pledge in the first place!

]]> By: mv http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14481 mv Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:49:06 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14481 i agree..its seems ur the odd one out if ur not having sex...nd if ur dating its realy difivult 2 actualy avoid the dituation of getting in2 it..im 22..n im a virgin..but with every passing day...n new people cuming in2 ur lfe...im really finding it hard to stop maself from the thought...not that u had low morals...its about times ur week n vulnerable n u fall...n another thing iv noticed id that guys always think that sex is the only way of proving that they love the girll..its only form of expression they have...n its dificult 2 get out of tht one..like seriously... i agree..its seems ur the odd one out if ur not having sex…nd if ur dating its realy difivult 2 actualy avoid the dituation of getting in2 it..im 22..n im a virgin..but with every passing day…n new people cuming in2 ur lfe…im really finding it hard to stop maself from the thought…not that u had low morals…its about times ur week n vulnerable n u fall…n another thing iv noticed id that guys always think that sex is the only way of proving that they love the girll..its only form of expression they have…n its dificult 2 get out of tht one..like seriously…

]]> By: jenny http://washingtonindependent.com/23137/study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1#comment-14473 jenny Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:52:38 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=23137#comment-14473 I would completely disagree. I guess just making a pledge may not be effective. Parents have to back this up with setting limits about dating, and teaching their kids. One thing is for sure, just telling your kids to just use a condom doesn't work. All forms of birth control fail, and young people are not very good at using them. I have raised four children who managed to wait until marriage, and know many, many young adults who are waiting for marriage. I think it just depends on your level of committment. People just buy into the mind set that young people cannot wait, which is completely untrue. I would completely disagree. I guess just making a pledge may not be effective. Parents have to back this up with setting limits about dating, and teaching their kids. One thing is for sure, just telling your kids to just use a condom doesn't work. All forms of birth control fail, and young people are not very good at using them. I have raised four children who managed to wait until marriage, and know many, many young adults who are waiting for marriage. I think it just depends on your level of committment. People just buy into the mind set that young people cannot wait, which is completely untrue.

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