Barack Obama on Gaza

Monday, December 29, 2008 at 9:55 am

This is the Obama transition’s official statement on Gaza as of right now, courtesy of chief transition national-security spokeswoman Brooke Anderson:

“President-elect Obama is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza, but there is one president at a time.”

The current president demanded for years that the Palestinians elect new leadership to replace Yasir Arafat’s Fatah Party and then declared the United States wouldn’t negotiate with the victors. His approach to Israeli-Palestinian peace processing — which could be fairly described as dismissive to lackadaisical to suddenly torrid — did not, as his secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, recently acknowledged, yield the results that he envisioned.

Still, Rice spoke with Obama on Saturday for about eight minutes at the president-elect’s behest. Tonight, following an intelligence briefing, the president-elect plans to discuss the situation in Israel and Gaza with his secretary of state designee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY). and his incoming national security adviser, Marine Gen. Jim Jones (Ret.).

On CBS’ “Face the Nation” yesterday, Obama political strategist David Axelrod said that Obama remains “committed” to an Israeli-Palestinian peace, though he has indicated in the past that despite his we-should-negotiate-with-our-enemies position, Israel would find it “very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation-state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries.”

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Denis Jonnes
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 8:37 am

This is no time for negotiation. This is time for Obama and the international community to demand an immediate stop to the massacre of Palestinians. Unless the Israeli bombing is stopped immediately, this will end up being worse than the massacre of Palestinians at Shabra and Shatilla. Stop the killing now!!!

Chris Clayton
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 9:30 am

Your out of touch with the heart of the Palestinians and the hamas. This conflict will not stop if Israel stops the bombing now… will continue until the hate in the hearts of the Islamic mind is changed

Marshall Mathers
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 9:48 am

Hamas never intends to negotiate, they only intend to kill. It is Hamas that is committed to the destruction of the country of Israel. They beleive ideologically that only Muslims, nobody else, have the right to own land in all of the Middle east. Since their inception as a group, hamas has terrorized, shelled, and threatened the lives of ordinary Israeli civilians – with no regard to human life. I didn't hear a word from the world then, when it was Jews who were being hurt. Now that it is Gazans who are being hurt the world in bitterly protesting. Human being are human beings – Jew, Muslim, Athiest, whoever… Wha'ts with this double standard. Israel has said (and meant) and continues to uphold that the minute radical Islamists stop shelling Israel and smuggling weapons, restrictions will be uplifted. But no, hamas would rather see their own palistinian brothers and sisters die, get hurt, and go hungry, then ever agree to a Jewish country in the middle east.

It's pretty damn clear who is right and who is wrong in this situation. Every innocent palistian killed in this war (and there are a lot of them), is killed by the hand of hamas. These radicals intentionally launch mortars at Israeli civilians from areas of Gaza dense with children, from schools and hospitals, from any location where they know that a reprisal will mean certain death for innocent people. Israel cannot be expected to sit idle while militants fire at her from behind human shields. Hamas chooses to sacrifice these poor children with the hope of world simpathy. Indeed, I sympathize, with the innocent children who have been dragged into this conflict by an ideologically brainwashed group of barbarians. People who are so uncivilized as to even recognize a neighboring country, because it is predominantley Jewish.

Those of you who have read until here, you may not have accessed many Pro-Israeli writings. It seems that most people in today's world would rather not acknowledge the truth that is written here. But here are a few facts to ponder:

Israel has captured and imprisoned many terrorists over the years. All, and let me stress ALL, of whom have been kept (or released from) israeli prisons with high standards of sanitation, food, legal access, and frequent visitation from red cross inspectors and spiritual leaders (of all faiths!).

Hamas, when they don't blatently excecute their prisoners, does not allow any media access or red cross access to them. Gilad shalit has been in captivity in Gaza for years now and the Red cross has not been allowed to see if he is in good health, much less tortured or even alive. The moral arguments are too numerous to expand upon right now, but do yourself a favor and open your eyes to some literature from the Israeli perspective. If you are a rational, educated, civilized person, I bet you'll find that Israel embodies the principles of human dignity that you hold dear. It is a shame that Israel must dedicate so many lives, energy, and other resources to DEFEND herself from such evil.

I hope this conflict ends soon, and that the people who identify with terrorism will discover that all people on earth are of equal value. That race, religion, gender, and other differences do not change one's basic entitilement to human rights. If this will happen, and Palistinians in Gaza and the West bank decide to embrace israel, and one another, a future of mutualism can ensue. Palistianans and Israelis will be able to live along side of one another, without trade and understanding and without fear. This is the goal of the Israeli public!


Marshall Mathers
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 9:56 am

PS. I just read what I wrote and noticed many typos…

For clarity, Israel wishes to live along side a free Palistine, WITH trade, WITH respect, and WITH guaranteed security. Imagine if instead of training to fight one another, Israeli and Palistinian youth focused their efforts on education, production, art, and family. That's the goal!

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 10:29 am

This is where Barack will regret choosing Clinton to be SoS.
Like Bush, she will give Israel a green light to continually murder unarmed civilians with state of the art weaponry.
Barack's naivete shows plainly in his position. Israel has not tried to negotiate with anyone.
They desire Shoah of the Palestinian people. That's their only objective. Hillary Clinton will do all she can to help them achieve it.

We warned you, Barack. Because of some poor choices for cabinet the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be the thorn in your side unless you change your position and take measures against an out of control Israel.

I hope the PE finds the courage to do what's right.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 10:33 am

a couple of comments:

a. Dennis is right. There is no more time for negotiation! This is the time to stop this massacre of innocent Palestinians. During the past years, 20 innocent Israelies were killed by Hamas rockets; in the past 3 days over 300 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli rockets and hundreds of others injured with no access to medical help (due to the Gazan closure).
b. Marshalls basic premise is wrong. Muslims (and I am a Christian) lived in peace with Jews, Christians, and other religions in Palestine before the creation of Israel and do NOT believe that only Muslims have the right to own all the land in the Middle East. I understand that Hamas is not the best choice (and is responsible for many bad and some good things), however, the Bush administration pushed for a democratic vote and now refuses to acknowledge the results of that election.
c. On a personal note, Marshall should learn to spell “Palestinians” and proof read his comments before posting.
d. Lastly, no one side is right and the other wrong. Both sides have committed many atrocities over the past 60 years, we need to realize that we both want Peace and have to negotiate away many of our demands. Get some of what we want, and give a little of what they want too. STOP THE BOMBS NOW! Lets get everyone to talk and solve this situation equitably and the entire Middle East will be diffused of their biggest complaint.

I am a displaced Christian Palestinian refugee. Thanks for reading. PEACE!

David A Dowding
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 11:00 am

The Jews never learn or perhaps they intend to kill all the Palestinians because that is what they will have to do to create their concept of security. A little Christian charity during the holiday season would be more appropriate than killing civilians because the Jews are trying to convince the world they're the modern day Dirty Harry.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 11:19 am

I am confused. I thought that the territory between the West Bank and Gaza was designated
to become Palestine in the two state solution. It is being occupied by Israel settlers who are determined not to let the territory revert to Palestine. This is the reason that Gaza shoots rockets–to discourage
the settlers on their territory.

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Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

I'm really curious on how Hillary is going to handle these sort of things in a few weeks. This conflict is definitely going to be plaguing him during his entire administration. Israel has made their policy pretty clear, and I don't think he's going to be able to change that (or think that he should!).

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:28 pm

The world must realize that Israel has a right to defend itself against nations and their proxies who seek its destruction. If Mexico constantly hurled rockets into Texas, I don't think anyone would question our right to defend ourselves or America's right to march in and make Mexico the 51st State.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:33 pm

This is a perfect example of the shortcomings of the lame duck phenomenon that the US has subjected itself to – there is only one President at a time. I understand Obama's desire to not have to take sides until utterly necessary, but the current administration is far too comfortable blaming Hamas for everything and blindly taking a pro-Israel stance. Israel is not bound to appease our foreign relations, or pursue our objectives, and we could risk our diplomatic relations in the region should we take too strong of an unfettered pro-Israel stance in this war, and things go poorly for Israel.

It will be very interesting to see how things play out over the next few days, weeks, months, years.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:33 pm

The boundaries of the “two states” have never been defined and is the subject of considerable dispute. Israel does not occupy Gaza anymore and the West Bank is still, essentially, shared. The terrorists that lob bombs into Israel from Gaza do so simply to kill as many Israeli's as possible, not to advance teh “Palestinians'” cause or protect territory . The “Palesinians”, in any event, were refugees of the 1967 war that Jordan refused to take back into its country, this spawning the myth of the “Palestinians” looking for a “home.”

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:39 pm

I dont think that anyone is asking Israel to merely take it from Hamas, to turn the other cheek (wrong testament of the Bible?). But I think that there is the understanding that this conflict is almost a century old now, and with the stakes becoming increasingly higher, there has to be a stronger call to peace than merely the UN reminding us all that war is bad. This is just another turn of the cycle of blockade, preemptive strike, retaliation, and temporary ceasefire. The fundamental core of the conflict has to be addressed – each side has been promised so much, and now they are both still fighting for what they believe is rightfully theirs. Century old religious and territorial warring just screams epic battle.

gnidwoD A divaD
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm

Wow, your insight changed my whole perspective on things Mr. Dowding. You're right! Why do those Jews go on killing? They really have no reason to, I mean, so what if a rocket crashes through a roof and kills some Jewish children. Why should their parents care? and why in the world would their government risk military lives to combat these rockets? They should totally open the border with Hamas, let who wants in in, let who wants out out, and have faith that Hamas will quit with the rockets at that point. Simple, that's what I'd do.

And yeah, Israel's concept of security is all messed up. It's been many months since Israel has experienced suicide bombings, terrorist mass shootings, and construction equipment used to massacre civilians – how does this matter today? I mean, maybe Israel should give Hamas a chance, they may have changed their whole perspective since then.

Harry Dirties!

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:46 pm

Poor Obama who will be “plagued” with this in his first term… Booo hooo… what about the Israeli's plagued by mortars every day without a nation crying foul to these atrocities. It's the residents of Sderot who have been plagued for months now, not Obama.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

Good point, but Israel doesn't want more territory. Israel simply wants peace. They have offered land for peace multiple times since 1948, including a HUGE offering to the late, and hardly missed, Yassar Arafat under the Clinton presidency. He refused, like an idiot, not because the offer wasn't good enough, but because the offer didn't rid the middle east of Jews….

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

The fact remains that the Arab world has sponsored terrorism against Israel since its birth, using Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the PLO, and all such Islamo-fascist murderers who cower within civilian populations to do the dirty work. Do these cockroaches who you all defend really think there will not be any reprisals for lobbing rockets into Israel on a daily basis? If the “Palestinians” (who are nothing more than Jordanian refugees of the 1967 war) want their own State, why don't they stand up to the animals who take cover in their midst? When Syria, Iraq and Iran stop supplying the Muslim terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank, whose only goal is destroy Israel, when the Arab world learns to take care of their own, and when the Arab world works peacefully toward a Palestinian State, then the terrorism will end and Israel will have not need to defend itself. Just think what the US would do if Mexico started lobbing bombs into Texas…then you will understand what Israel must do to survive.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

You are 100% correct. But I was not refering to imperialism, but rather, the fact that we would do whatever it would take to get a neighboring country to stop bombing us. So too must Israel do whatever it takes to end these attempts to destroy a Jewish presence in the region. .

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

What Golda Meir said 40+ years ago is still true today: “The Arabs will stop fighting us when they love their children more than they hate Jews.”

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 2:36 pm

What is about Palestinians living under apartheid and occupation for 60 years. What is about their right to live with dignity and freedom. What is about their right to their water. What is about Jewish only settlements on stolen lands by force. what is about 20 years of negotiations that produced 300% more settlements (great indication that Israel wants peace!!!) . What is about Israel leaving Gaza, only to control all boarders, with access from sea, sky or land — as if that is not occupation of the worst kind.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 2:47 pm

I was born and lived in Palestine for 18 years until 1985. By then there was no Intifada or Palestinian resistance. I remember that Israel showed us no single sign of concern for our humanity or any of the wonderful image of the peaceful Israel you are trying to portray. I remember we had a farm where our water supply is cabbed at the 1967 year water consumption limits while I remember growing Israeli settlements on our land with water flowing from our land freely. I remember inferior Palestinian schools. I remember torn Palestinian roads with no maintenance since 1967 while new highways built on stolen lands to connect settlements. I remember even natural growth of the our town is not allowed, home permits denied and homes demolished. I remember Shin Bet officers and army soldier break our doors at night to drag my Dad out for interrogation and humiliation because someone wrote a slogan expressing freedom for Palestinians on a wall. I remember the soldiers on a check point next to Nablus stop the taxi I took once slabbed on the cheek for no reason other than humiliation, I remember hundreds of such incidents. But I couldn't remember a single incident that indicated that Israelies wanted to live as equals in our land.

Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

The Jewish Zionist movement from Eastern Europe started this in the 1930's. They created and implanted terrorisim in the area. They wanted to turn Palestine into a Jewish state, so through Jewish Zionist terroism they established the Criminal occupation of Palestine and later after killing thousands of innocent Palestinaian lives and confescating their lands they established the now known State of Israel. The world was manipulated to believe that State of Israel was created out of a just cause. Why isn't their a Christian State or a Hindu State? People please read history don't rely on the Media.

Fan of Leah
Comment posted December 29, 2008 @ 11:20 pm

Wanting to return to a place of your ancestry, where many times empires (ottoman and roman) have expelled you time and time again, is not criminal. There were always Jews in Israel, for almost 4000 years now. The Jews that came during the 1930's displaced nobody. They purchased land at exorbanent prices. Tel Aviv was settled on Sand Dunes. Swamps were drained. Israel was created by the hard labor of these Jewish workers. It was not a country at the time, merely territory owned by the Brittish (who did take it over). This is why history is important. If you want to discuss an issue, you must have the facts straight.

In any case Gary, if you're writing from America, then I assure you that you have MUCH LESS authority to live where you live than anybody whom you can point your finger at in Israel. After all, the whole USA was stolen from native Americans, and that was just in the last 250 years. Jewish holy sites thousands of years old stand to this day in Israel – Jews were there!

Also, if you want to talk about being expelled from land. A hundred years ago tons of Jews lived in what is now Iraq, Iran, Syria, and other countries in the middle east. A tiny fraction remain today because of persecution. Please find a blog board where people discuss that and argue on behalf of the forgotten, persecuted Jews.

You also ask, “why isn't there a Christian or a Hindu state… Please… In a country where your religion is the majority and has been for centuries, it doesn't have to be stated in your constitution what religious faith your country adopts. [Italy - Catholic, Spain - Catholic, EVERY S. AMERICA COUNTRY - Catholic, Saudi Arabia/Iran/Lybia/UAE/ and too many others - Muslim (many with Sharia Law!)] Okay… proved my point.

Comment posted December 30, 2008 @ 4:42 am

I'm sure there is truth to what you say. Israel is not, and never was a perfect nation. Why though is Israel supposed to absorb Palestinian refugees and build schools and infrastructure for them, when in fact, they are not Israelis. Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Israel each have the same responsibility towards refugees. I'm not speaking about the absorption dilemma though, or being slapped in the face. These are big problems, but what is bigger is the intentional killing of civilians – a practice committed only by Islamic terrorists in this case, never by the Israeli military. Sure, civilians die from Israeli artillery, but this is a consequence of where hammas is hiding, not a consequence of Israeli intention.

It's like Black discrimination against whites in America in the 1950s… I'm sure it existed, but White persecution of Blacks was much more ubiquitous and much more extreme.

I sympathize for ordinary working Palestinians who want nothing more but to live a life of liberty in peace with their neighbors. Shame on Hammas for subjecting their Palestinian brothers and sisters to the repercussions of attacking Israel.

Comment posted December 30, 2008 @ 7:20 am

The fact is that Israel is a country and will always be a country. The past is irrelevant on this matter. Israel has the right and Im sure will continue to exercise the right to protect their people. This keeping of score is pathetic. Hamas has embedded themselves in a civilian population out of cowardice. Let them go out into the desert and face their enemy…not likely to happen. If you want the country back for the arabs then take it….not likely to happen. If the people in Gaza want peace they should change out the terrorist government they elected…might happen.

A Raouf
Comment posted January 3, 2009 @ 3:36 am

Is this the peace that america wants to bring in the world? you let one illegal country to cage up millions of prople with no link to the rest of the world jus cuz they want their land back? The fact of the matter is taht america always turns a blind eye towards isreal. Anyone whose views r different from America's is a terrorist. I have no HOPE from Obama. How in the world is it justified to target someone even though he is hiding in civilian population? Would it be justified to bomb George Bush while he is with school children? American's wake up and learn to be just if you want to be respected. Dont just support and be a partner to zeonists for every crime tehy commit.

Peter Bernstein
Comment posted January 3, 2009 @ 12:59 pm

Hamas are democratically elected. I think this attack on Gaza is good for several reasons:

* It shows Israels true terrorist intentions worldwide.
* Creates support for Hamas.
* Deflects attention from Iran who, like those lunatics in Israel, are trying to develop a nuclear bomb.

Which with any luck, they will drop on Israel soon – so the rest of the world can live in peace!!!!

Peter Bernstein
Comment posted January 3, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

Hamas are democratically elected. However, I think this attack on Gaza is good for several reasons:

* It shows Israel's true terrorist intentions worldwide.
* Creates support for Hamas.
* Deflects attention from Iran who, like those lunatics in Israel, are trying to develop a nuclear bomb.
* As an extra bonus . The two wars America are fighting in the Middle East have sucked it dry and reduced its influence and status as a superpower. They are a nation of has beens now. Thanks to Isreali influence.

With any luck Iran will drop the bomb on Israel soon!!!

Britain sorted out problems with Northern Ireland with negotiation. Not sending in bombers and tanks to civilian areas.

Comment posted January 5, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

Dear Raouf,how many times the word jerusalem,or any part of that land is written in you KORAN?
Zero, it appears many time in our new testament,and in the jewish bible.
God gave the jews that land a long before Mohammed was even born,and jes used to live ther for years,untill they were kicked out by the roman's who spread them all over the world.
After the hollocaust,they came back to their land,ther wasn't any palestinian state ther,or anything like that,yes there were arabs who lived there,and the UN split the land to two,one parts for jews,and one part for the arabs,48 hours later the arabs attacked the new jewish state,it looks like ALLAH,helped the jews,and agaginst all odds,they won the war,and the following ones.
As for today,i don't undersatnd those jesw,i didn't think they did any good when they gave gaza to the arabs,and now we all can see why,how many schools did they built since they got gaza?how many casinos?hotels?theaters? they took the money(a lot)that was donated to them for those reasons,and built tunnels to transfer bombs.they build weapons factories.
Look my friend,the HAMAS has to go,terrorists dont have room in our world anymore,and it doesn't matter where.
And another point:they really don't give a sheet about their people,when you fight,you hide your wife and kids,you don't shoot next to them just so when they get hurt you ran with this pictures to the media,I'm not muslim,but you know what,i care about those kids and weman more than the HAMAS.

Comment posted January 6, 2009 @ 6:48 am

To B. J:
We are not talking about Islam and Jew here. All what we know is that Palestine was not a territory of Jew around 1900. Before that time, All Arabs, including Muslims and Jewish, we living in peace. They used to baby-sit each other without any conflict. When Arabs, including Jews, found that Israel is trying to occupy it, the war started (Even some Jewish did not support establishing Israel in Palestine). Furthermore, there are many Jewish people who believe that Jew are not supposed to be in a physical nation, because the Jewish bible says so.

We have some Rules that the UN established and non of these rules say that Israel can be established in Palestine. The current policy say that establishing Israel in Palestine is INVADING.
So, Palestine is NOT the Jew's land according to the Jew's bible. Neither is it if we read it from the UN's angle.

I really hope that you read more about how Israel is established. Please don't read it from the Jews' angle. I am from the Middle East, but I am living in the US, and I found that some documentaries, Jews religious people, and some PhD people don't justify Establishing Israel in Palestine.

Comment posted January 6, 2009 @ 6:50 am

Arabs loves their children. It is not about loving or hating; it is about fighting for the land that is occupied.

I don't see that Golda Meir was hitting the right ball.

Comment posted January 6, 2009 @ 6:58 am


There is a world of difference between “Hamas and Israel” and “America and Mexican”.

Some people argue in some good points that can be refuted, but I see that you point is far away from the truth.

I believe that you need to read the history before comparing “Hamas and Israel” and “America and Mexican”.

Omar S
Comment posted January 8, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

Can I ask Obama, why does he have soo much to say for the current economic recession, credit crunch and Mumbai attacks, he was very quick to comment on those issues, so why can you not say anything about an issue that affects everyone of us? I tell you why, you can be the next President of America, but AIPAC are your muppet-masters.

America need to get out of the recession, do you really think that powers-that-be are gonna try and prevent war, since they make billions from it! Obama, your shining moment was now, and you've shown your real intentions.

Every innocent Palestinian and Israeli that die, their bloods are on your hands. Your no better than Bush, as silence is just as equal. Your breaking all those people's hope for peace and justice, and those that are living in heart-breaking circumstances, are continuously getting worse because of your weakness. Ask yourself…could you allow your own children to live in those conditions? We do not need you, or those alike you, we need a President who is also a Humanist…..with a heart for the world…not for your own agendas. Please refer to Rabbi Michael Lerner, who wrote an article in, and gave his solution to the problem…and better still…give him the post that loser Tony Blair has been given.

The truth is, that the whole saga is political, and although Western Governments condemn so called 'terrorist' states, they infact, created them or their political agendas, and can only blame themselves for the hatred evolved from the muslim world. Creating Israel was a political move, and to keep preventing the creation of Palestinian state is also a poltical move, no matter how many times the Governments proclaim that they want a so-called solution. For the Israelis, they never want an equal state, cos thats a threat for them (as they see it). Furthermore, the pinpoint of the problem is the Holy Sites, to the Jews, Christian, Muslims, as the 'Zionists' are secretly trying to raise the Second Temple.

Let me also say equally, the real victims are the innocent women, children and people, of Palestine. Hamas, unfortunately, were created by Israel and are thoroughly being used by Iran, Hezbollah and mullahs that are filled with rage. Whilst the governments are blaming one another, they've failed to realise that the innocents are suffering. Their cannot be an equal suffering of Israelis to that of Palestinians, as they still have the comfort of everyday living. But, nevertheless, they are suffering, whether its by fear, injuries, loss or damage of property, or loss of life. I sympathise with Hamas, but disagree with their actions. If they wanna target anyone, let it be the military, as its the them who are grabbing the lands. But sitting down and talking would be the preferable choice, and will only work if the Israeli genuinely want that, which seems very unlikely.

Mr Barack needs to be absolutely fair, and really want peace across the globe. I assure you, that if you resolve the Middle East, all your enemies will retract across the globe, and even if they dont, the world population will be behined you, and that includes muslims.

As a muslim, the biggest heart-break is the misuse of the term 'Islam', and worst still, the actions of so-called muslims using Islam as their justification to cause terror. I urge everyone around the world, including the radicalists on both sides, to know that aggression only creates further aggression. 'Read' was the opening word revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammed (saw), and if people understood the power behind that, they would read (the Holy Quran) and understand that Islam is very peaceful, and wants us to understand on how we must live.

Again as a muslim, I condemn all forms of terror around the world by so-called Islamists, and must urge the public to understand, there is nothing Islamic about their actions. I pray for all the families that have suffered in the London bombings, and across the world, including those in Israel.

Obama….dont be a muppet, but be a just leader, as we do not have one at this present time. The chance is your for the taking. Your inact on oppression in Palestine, is a slap across your ancestors that suffered as a result of oppresion.

Comment posted January 16, 2009 @ 5:54 am

If you had ever read the New Testament, you would know that God gave Israel to the Jews but later took it away because they went back to their polythiestic ways of worshipping statues. Muslims believe the Holy Land belongs to all believers, not onlyJews or Christians. And the Bible never condones mass genocide in the name of God, but I guess you would only understand that if you were Palestinian. And whats this “gave Gaza to the Arabs'? Gaza and ALL of Israel was Palestine before the zionists came and kicked people out of their homes. Why would they build casino's in Gaza?? They're Muslims, they dont gamble like you pigs, and fyi they built tunnels to Egypt to get supplies because of the strict ration system Israels has forced on the Palestinians, and what weapon factories? They cant even go to school without getting guns pointed at them, how the Hell could they build weapon factories? You are ignorant and a waste of my time.

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