Comments on: What Worked In Iraq Must Work In Afghanistan, Right?

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:33:33 +0000

The surge worked?

Then you should read this article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/1872...

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:33:33 +0000

The surge worked?

Then you should read this article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/1872...

By: scott r

scott r — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:22:06 +0000

That will not work in Afghanistan at first, it will make Afghanistan 2 times as bad at first.
number 1, it did not work in Iraq at first, the terrorist left then come back very fast & then it was 2 times as bad, that was unto they started to do street blocks & check points every where, then they bring in sniffer dogs metal detectors & when house to house again, then you seen a massive turnaround .
Unto the sons of Iraq seen street block & road block, they did not try help America, once they seen road block & check points, they started to help,,,,
Do you know why, check points where to go all the way around each block around the markets, after doing that the terrorist could not drive a car with explosives into the market & kill 700 people each attack, that is what worked with all the other tactics, & unto they sons of Iraq seen a massive drop in attacks / death they did nothing at all,, the check points stop the terrorist killing 700 people with 1 attack, times that by only 5 attacks a day, & you can see that 3,500 people each day would not be killed.
So that is what happened & that is why the Iraq started to help after seeing a massive stop to the terrorist tactics,,, the sons of Iraq seen check points that stoped all attacks at the market pretty much, & once they seen America with a new war plan they backed it & then the really started to help..
You can only kill 5-20 people at a check point, not 700 people,, get it, death rate / by 80%.

If you note, they had the sons of Iraq before the surge, it did nothing at all, unto 2-3 moths after the surge of troops got there, that is because they did not do every think right,, they need check point road blocks sniffer dogs to smell for explosives & needed to do them the right way,, so check points not just on a street here & a street there, but check points all the way around the markets that will stop any car with explosives driving into a crawdad place, with 8,000 people, & blowing up, killing 1,000 people each.
All the new tactics that where done 2-3 months after the surge of troops where there, won the war for them,, so, sniffer dogs smelling for explosives & gun powder after a gun what shot, then door to door every house with sniffer dogs metal detectors and a lot more things.
that’s what worked like check points all the way around places, & check points.

Just like the cement wall of sadar city,, it was done to make the terrorist run out of weapons, build a cement wall all the way around sadar city, then after 3 months they will run out of explosives & ammo, so they will in 1 month no what is going to happen, & that’s why they had a ceasefire,, we forced them into 1, that or die.
& a lot more.

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:10:51 +0000

Trouble with the registration, but I have a bad tendency to run fucked up linux OSs and hacked browsers, so its likely me.

Rock on!

mikey

By: Dick Scott

Dick Scott — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:24:39 +0000

The Soviets used Dostum (Uzbek) and his militia from the north against the Kandaharis (Pashtun) when they could not “win” in that city in the 80s. They were given a “free hand” that resulted in what in other circumstances would be referred to as war crimes…never to be addressed. Will the proposed militias be used in only their home territories, ie. Uzbeks against Uzbeks, Pashtuns against Pashtuns, etc. or be used as the Soviets did? And who will monitor their actions to be sure the “trained militias” will be against the “Taliban Movement” or against some of their traditional tribal foes? As we have experienced, some of our “intelligence” has resulted in our bombing of our informants' feuding enemies instead of a gathering of “Taliban”. It seems unlikely that we can monitor the results. Do we understand what we are trying to do? Seems unlikely.

By: Spencer Ackerman

Spencer Ackerman — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:05:37 +0000

Hey thanks Mikey. Merry whatev to you too. I'll bring up your FDL problems — you can't comment, I take it? — with the mods.

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:45:49 +0000

Hey Spencer. I can never get FDL to work, so I wanted to come over here and tell you that while I'm about twice as old as you (Summer Vacation 1970 on the Cambodian Border with the Cav), I sure do appreciate your music posts. Wanted to thank you for introducing me to Gaslight. That's a special find.

Also, Merry whatever...

mikey