Do We Really Want Saudi Troops In Afghanistan?

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Monday, December 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm

My friend Jeff Stein at CQ asks:

I’ve got an idea: Why not get the Saudis to pony up, say, 20-30,000 troops for Afghanistan, about the same number that Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said Sunday might be added to the 30,000 we already have there?
Can we not? To engage in some Wikipedia journalism, the Saudis don’t have a history as an expeditionary land force. Their wars tend to be either close to their borders, or as non-factors, as with their token participation in the Yom Kippur war against Israel. (There’s a small contingent of troops in Afghanistan who are from the Persian Gulf, but if memory-and-Google serves, they’re from the United Arab Emirates. Just saying. Maybe there’s a small Saudi contingent, though. I could be wrong.) And isn’t the Saudi army kind of, well, not really well-esteemed? Afghanistan is really rugged territory, and it doesn’t look like the Saudis are so equipped for it.
Before you jump down my throat, I understand that Jeff’s point is primarily a political one — we tend to do a lot of Saudi-protecting, and it would be rather helpful to get a Sunni Muslim force on the ground. But let’s not put politics so far ahead of capabilities.

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6 Comments

waldem
Comment posted December 22, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

The Saudis have been funding the taliban for years and have provided funds to thePakistani ISI. Their sympathies do not seem to fit with whatever the coalition's goals are. I don;t see a Wahabi Saudi unit commander being being receptive to an order to attack a taliban convoy, or to use his troops to provide security fo other coalition troops.


JT
Comment posted December 23, 2008 @ 1:46 pm

The Saudis are not equipped for an Expenditionary Force. The military is composed of 2 x major forces, one consisting mainiy of heavy armor units (M1's) with aviaiton assets and the other of mechanized/motorized (LAV's). The first force is fairly well trained … the second however, is more like a military form of social welfare and the force lacks competent leaderhip and troops. They do have a few Commando and Elite Units, but they are tasked primarily with protecting Mecca and Medina and keeping infidels at bay. An Expenditionary Force of Saudi's, although a good idea which could possibly relieve tensions within the Muslim world regarding invaders, would however surely backfire, as most Afghani's would not be tolerant of their arrogance which many of them display and/or their hipocritical adherence to Wahhabi Islam when it suits them.


saudi
Comment posted December 26, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

quote:
we tend to do a lot of Saudi-protecting,
unquote

you don't protect Saudi, you protect Saudi oil.

PLUS

no Saudi will fight against Muslim


saudi
Comment posted December 27, 2008 @ 1:16 am

quote:
we tend to do a lot of Saudi-protecting,
unquote

you don't protect Saudi, you protect Saudi oil.

PLUS

no Saudi will fight against Muslim


sandbiggles
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

The Saudi military capability is primarily focussed on regime (House of Saud) protection; that said, they do have the ability to provide at least a brigade size conventional force plus special forces at a similar level to the Dutch. This includes land forces, ground attack aircraft (fixed wing and helo) and civil affairs.

Yes they could provide a Sunni based force in Afghanistan, a balance to Iranian and Indian influence. But could the emergence of a confident KSA provide a new threat to the region?


sandbiggles
Comment posted November 11, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

The Saudi military capability is primarily focussed on regime (House of Saud) protection; that said, they do have the ability to provide at least a brigade size conventional force plus special forces at a similar level to the Dutch. This includes land forces, ground attack aircraft (fixed wing and helo) and civil affairs.

Yes they could provide a Sunni based force in Afghanistan, a balance to Iranian and Indian influence. But could the emergence of a confident KSA provide a new threat to the region?


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