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		<title>By: nellieh</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>nellieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</p>
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		<title>By: nellieh</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3700</link>
		<dc:creator>nellieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</p>
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		<title>By: uneasyone</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>uneasyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#039;t for the antiwar movement, we&#039;d still have troops in Vietnam &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Cambodia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one - despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage - but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned - all the media focus was on the first and third place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered - but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He points out that JE is identified with the left - OMG! - and some don&#039;t like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country - from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war - we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us - the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#39;t for the antiwar movement, we&#39;d still have troops in Vietnam <i>and</i> Cambodia.</p>
<p>The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one &#8211; despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.</p>
<p>I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage &#8211; but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned &#8211; all the media focus was on the first and third place.</p>
<p>Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered &#8211; but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.</p>
<p>He points out that JE is identified with the left &#8211; OMG! &#8211; and some don&#39;t like that.</p>
<p>Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.</p>
<p>Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country &#8211; from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war &#8211; we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us &#8211; the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: uneasyone</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>uneasyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#039;t for the antiwar movement, we&#039;d still have troops in Vietnam &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Cambodia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one - despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage - but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned - all the media focus was on the first and third place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered - but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He points out that JE is identified with the left - OMG! - and some don&#039;t like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country - from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war - we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us - the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#39;t for the antiwar movement, we&#39;d still have troops in Vietnam <i>and</i> Cambodia.</p>
<p>The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one &#8211; despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.</p>
<p>I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage &#8211; but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned &#8211; all the media focus was on the first and third place.</p>
<p>Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered &#8211; but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.</p>
<p>He points out that JE is identified with the left &#8211; OMG! &#8211; and some don&#39;t like that.</p>
<p>Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.</p>
<p>Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country &#8211; from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war &#8211; we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us &#8211; the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: nanookmn</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>nanookmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#039;t realize how strongly Edwards&#039;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#039;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#039;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The powers that be don&#039;t like Edwards.  He&#039;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#039;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#39;t realize how strongly Edwards&#39;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.</p>
<p>Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#39;s exactly what I&#39;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#39;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#39;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!</p>
<p>The powers that be don&#39;t like Edwards.  He&#39;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#39;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</p>
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		<title>By: nanookmn</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>nanookmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#039;t realize how strongly Edwards&#039;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#039;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#039;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The powers that be don&#039;t like Edwards.  He&#039;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#039;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#39;t realize how strongly Edwards&#39;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.</p>
<p>Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#39;s exactly what I&#39;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#39;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#39;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!</p>
<p>The powers that be don&#39;t like Edwards.  He&#39;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#39;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</p>
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		<title>By: nellieh</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>nellieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself among the fortunate. I was able to retire with a pension and subsidized union health care that covers both my wife and me. John Edwards is on the ballot in Ohio and I selected him over others. Because I will unlikely fall into destitution is no reason to neglect those who are already there. Being an atheist it amazes me to hear those claiming to be Christians belittling or denying those less fortunate. If anybody making less than $40,000.00/year can say our country is better off now than it was 7 years ago. I would think they are on drugs. The Democrats were given the majority in both houses of congress to get us OUT OF IRAQ!. Nada. They have been as ineffective as any congress in the history of our country. The Democrats are continually out maneuvered and out gunned in congress. Pelosi and Reid are failures as leaders. My wish, and you might as well go for the gusto, is to change both houses of congress completely with Democratic super majoritys.</p>
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		<title>By: uneasyone</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/2140/edwards-moves-on-with-moveon/comment-page-1#comment-1917</link>
		<dc:creator>uneasyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#039;t for the antiwar movement, we&#039;d still have troops in Vietnam &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Cambodia.

The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one - despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.

I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage - but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned - all the media focus was on the first and third place.

Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered - but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.

He points out that JE is identified with the left - OMG! - and some don&#039;t like that.

Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.

Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country - from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war - we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us - the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of historical revisionism going on lately.  If it wasn&#8217;t for the antiwar movement, we&#8217;d still have troops in Vietnam &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Cambodia.</p>
<p>The first spin was that we actually won that war.  It was ten years after the fall of Saigon before I heard anything different on the tube.  Then the spin was that yes we had lost, but only because of betrayal by those dirty antiwar hippies.  Now it seems to be that our gracious leaders got us out entirely separate from the millions of people in the streets literally shaking the buildings with antiwar chants and the middle class that we had turned as much against that war as this one &#8211; despite the fact that government had enjoyed much greater credibility up to that point.</p>
<p>I agree with nanookmn that Edwards got little coverage &#8211; but I would go farther.  There was a virtual media blackout where he was concerned.  The most egregious example was after his second place finish in New Hampshire.  Edwards was barely mentioned &#8211; all the media focus was on the first and third place.</p>
<p>Mr. Ackerman seems to be suggesting that citizen action is not only pointless but counterproductive.  He mentions the &quot;Betrayus&quot; ad and the furor it engendered &#8211; but not the enormous amount of money it raised for MoveOn.</p>
<p>He points out that JE is identified with the left &#8211; OMG! &#8211; and some don&#8217;t like that.</p>
<p>Maybe all us leftists should just lay down and die.  Then the right would be happy and everything would be just hunky-dory.</p>
<p>Sorry, buddy.  Everything the left has wrested from the oligarchy in charge in this country &#8211; from child labor laws to the minimum wage to, yes, the end of the war &#8211; we had to fight for.  Yes, they demonized us &#8211; the closer we get to success, the more they rant.  But when we quit fighting, they just run roughshod.  I understand that George III demonized the colonists too.  I think they learned to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: nanookmn</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanookmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#039;t realize how strongly Edwards&#039;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.



Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#039;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#039;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!



The powers that be don&#039;t like Edwards.  He&#039;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#039;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media gave John Edwards little coverage in comparison to the coverage it gave both Clinton and Obama.  People didn&#8217;t realize how strongly Edwards&#8217;s ideas resonated with them because they often heard them for the first time coming from the mouths of Clinton and/or Obama.</p>
<p>Since the general election in 2004, John Edwards has spent his time working with individuals and groups to help people in need.  That&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;ve been doing and what my friends have been doing ever since that fateful election.  All this time we&#8217;ve thought of ourselves as volunteers, as concerned members of our community.  Now you tell us that we&#8217;ve actually been compaigning for the presidency.  What a shock!</p>
<p>The powers that be don&#8217;t like Edwards.  He&#8217;s no radical, but he is principled.  He&#8217;s not going to go &quot;quietly into the night,&quot; and neither will we.</p>
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