Rush Holt on Torture

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm

Something that kind-of-sort-of-not-really-but-close-enough ties into Daphne’s post about Obama and Guantanamo: Rush Holt, the New Jersey Democratic congressman who’s become increasingly influential on intelligence and interrogation issues, has urged Obama to issue an executive order upon being sworn in banning torture across all government agencies (hint, hint, CIA). This is from a release Holt’s people just sent out:

“Torture tarnishes our nation’s values and damages our credibility,” Holt said. “I have worked for years to end our government’s use of torture. While an executive order will not remove the need for legislation on the issue, it is a way for President-elect Obama to put an immediate halt to our government’s use of torture during interrogations and to prevent secret detentions. By exercising his authority and acting quickly, he will begin to restore our moral leadership on the issue and repair some of the harm that has been done to our international reputation.”

Such an executive order would essentially nullify George W. Bush’s July 2007 executive order that left wiggle room for such torture techniques as waterboarding. Holt threw in some suggestions for what a prospective Obama executive order on torture should contain:

1) Bar the use of interrogation techniques which we would not find acceptable if used against Americans.

2) Create one national standard for the interrogation and treatment of prisoners for all personnel affiliated with all U.S. forces and agencies.

3) Require that we acknowledge all detainees to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and allow the ICRC access to them.

4) Require that we allow all detainees to have the opportunity to defend themselves in court.

5) Bar transport of people to other countries where there is an expectation of torture.

6) Provide for transparency in our confinement and interrogation procedures, including the videotaping of all interactions between prisoners and American personnel.

7) Make clear that any U.S. official who authorizes, implements, or fails to prevent the use of torture will be held accountable.

That’s pretty comprehensive. No secret prisons, no torture, no extraordinary rendition, no outsourcing torture to Egypt or Jordan or Thailand or wherever, no loopholes for CIA, no denial of habeas corpus. (See, Daphne, I found a way to get back to your post!) Now to see if Obama agrees.

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geral sosbee
Comment posted November 13, 2008 @ 3:27 pm

Former FBI Agent Geral Sosbee Calls for New Nuremberg Trial
Former FBI Agent Geral Sosbee Calls for New Nuremberg Trial

I call for a new Nuremberg Trial to hold individuals of the FBI, CIA, former presidents of the United States of America, members of Congress, Judges, etc. responsible for crimes against Humanity and other high crimes and misdemeanors. Consistent with the rules of the International Military Tribunal a crime against Humanity is defined as:
“Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during…war; or persecution on political, racial, or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.”
Note that crimes against peace are included in the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, even when crimes against Humanity are committed during times of peace.
Note that the FBI and the CIA routinely torture, kill, falsely imprison, or force suicide upon the targeted individuals globally, as I have documented in my reports. I am witness to the fact that the FBI and the CIA inhumanely and regularly torture the targeted person and also force him/her to live under horrific conditions that could reasonably be expected to lead to suicide even while the FBI and the CIA agents and operatives watch and record same.
All United States leaders who participated in the criminal organizations of the fbi and the cia, with respect to torture, false imprisonment, forced suicide, and other atrocities (such as non-consensual human medical experimentation) must stand trial as war criminals, or for crimes against Humanity and crimes against Peace.
Political, military and economics leaders, as well as propaganda directors in the government and in the mainstream media are subject to indictment for crimes against Humanity. The operatives of the fbi and the cia who carried out psychoelectronic (and related psychological operations against human beings) will have a front role seat as defendants at the trial; they will be particularly identified and exposed for their decades long involvement in atrocities.
All fbi and cia directors are to be tried; all presidents who condoned or covered up the crimes will be held liable. All Secretaries of State, Defense, any other agency (such as FDA, HHS, DOJ) which carried out atrocities committed by the fbi and the cia will be held accountable.
All culpable medical and dental doctors will be tried alongside their Handlers, and government agents. All other persons, identified by a thorough and objective investigation, who aided or covered up the atrocities will be called to answer for their crimes against Humanity.
The modern day equivalents of Josef Mengele, Klaus Barbie, Joseph Goebbels and Herman Goering (all of the Nazi Party) who in the United States participated in the crimes against Humanity will be identified and tried for their crimes. Names such as Freeh, Rice, Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Gates, Cornyn, Clinton,etc. will become synonymous with the names of their German Nazi counterparts of the 1930s.


geral sosbee
Comment posted November 13, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

Former FBI Agent Geral Sosbee Calls for New Nuremberg Trial
Former FBI Agent Geral Sosbee Calls for New Nuremberg Trial

I call for a new Nuremberg Trial to hold individuals of the FBI, CIA, former presidents of the United States of America, members of Congress, Judges, etc. responsible for crimes against Humanity and other high crimes and misdemeanors. Consistent with the rules of the International Military Tribunal a crime against Humanity is defined as:
“Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during…war; or persecution on political, racial, or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.”
Note that crimes against peace are included in the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, even when crimes against Humanity are committed during times of peace.
Note that the FBI and the CIA routinely torture, kill, falsely imprison, or force suicide upon the targeted individuals globally, as I have documented in my reports. I am witness to the fact that the FBI and the CIA inhumanely and regularly torture the targeted person and also force him/her to live under horrific conditions that could reasonably be expected to lead to suicide even while the FBI and the CIA agents and operatives watch and record same.
All United States leaders who participated in the criminal organizations of the fbi and the cia, with respect to torture, false imprisonment, forced suicide, and other atrocities (such as non-consensual human medical experimentation) must stand trial as war criminals, or for crimes against Humanity and crimes against Peace.
Political, military and economics leaders, as well as propaganda directors in the government and in the mainstream media are subject to indictment for crimes against Humanity. The operatives of the fbi and the cia who carried out psychoelectronic (and related psychological operations against human beings) will have a front role seat as defendants at the trial; they will be particularly identified and exposed for their decades long involvement in atrocities.
All fbi and cia directors are to be tried; all presidents who condoned or covered up the crimes will be held liable. All Secretaries of State, Defense, any other agency (such as FDA, HHS, DOJ) which carried out atrocities committed by the fbi and the cia will be held accountable.
All culpable medical and dental doctors will be tried alongside their Handlers, and government agents. All other persons, identified by a thorough and objective investigation, who aided or covered up the atrocities will be called to answer for their crimes against Humanity.
The modern day equivalents of Josef Mengele, Klaus Barbie, Joseph Goebbels and Herman Goering (all of the Nazi Party) who in the United States participated in the crimes against Humanity will be identified and tried for their crimes. Names such as Freeh, Rice, Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Gates, Cornyn, Clinton,etc. will become synonymous with the names of their German Nazi counterparts of the 1930s.


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