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		<title>By: SLBTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLBTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks painful - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stopoxy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.stopoxy.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks painful &#8211; <a href="http://www.stopoxy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopoxy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: SLBTS</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-165238</link>
		<dc:creator>SLBTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great perception - let us know the results in 10 years. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eatingdisordertreatment.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eatingdisordertreatment.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great perception &#8211; let us know the results in 10 years. <a href="http://www.eatingdisordertreatment.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eatingdisordertreatment.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: johnrove</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>johnrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first job out of college was helping to test a Varicella(chicken pox) vacine.  I worked with several people who helped to devolope the vaccine none of whom would let thier kids take it.

It seemed to me that the vaccine for chicken pox was more designed to be marketable than to prevent any real health risk.  Especially when you factor in that people who are given the chicken pox vaccine may be at greater risk for shingles later in life.

I am not sure how much this adds to the &quot;vaccines cause autism&quot; debate but I think it is an example of non health related concerns leading to a needless shot, that might do more harm than good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first job out of college was helping to test a Varicella(chicken pox) vacine.  I worked with several people who helped to devolope the vaccine none of whom would let thier kids take it.</p>
<p>It seemed to me that the vaccine for chicken pox was more designed to be marketable than to prevent any real health risk.  Especially when you factor in that people who are given the chicken pox vaccine may be at greater risk for shingles later in life.</p>
<p>I am not sure how much this adds to the &quot;vaccines cause autism&quot; debate but I think it is an example of non health related concerns leading to a needless shot, that might do more harm than good.</p>
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		<title>By: beyond08</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>beyond08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CDC, www.cdc.gov  has a fact page on vaccines. I included in my earlier post some of the ingredients that many people have allergic reactions to. I agree that vaccine language should not be in the Homeland Security ACT but it is, and sections 1714,1715,1716 and 1717, protect companies like Eli Lilly from lawsuits by removing liability. George Bush senior sat on Eli Lilly&#039;s board in the 1970&#039;s. Small world huh?

&quot;FDA warns Merck about Vaccine plant problems&quot; {Reuters] This is a FDA letter of finding

&quot;significant objectional conditions&quot; during an inspection beginning 11-07 and ending 1-08, in a plant that makes Gardasil. And yes some girls are experiencing health issues after receiving this &quot;wonder&quot; vaccine.

&quot;It is not the Scientist who has the best product but the Scientist who puts on the best show&quot;  and haven&#039;t we American&#039;s  used that as a measure for too long about far too many things?

 While not ever child develops Autism as a result of vaccines, and reports put this at 1 in 150 children, why do we allow 5 vaccines at once and thus make it even more difficult to pin point the one that could be responsible for a specific ailment.

I read recently that children can develope speaking issues, per vaccines, and I wept. It was an ah ha moment. I have been researching very dilligently, as I had a 2nd child who did not speak[as to be understood by others] and I requested he be tested. His doctor say he was young, just to let it go, but I insisted and we found he had a severe disfunction and required intense therapy. I then recalled shortly before his 1st month of life, he was ill,high temperture ect, classic, after vaccine symtoms, and I think it is very possible that the speech issue was related to his sensitivity to a substance in his vaccine. CALL it a HUNCH. Whatever, same kid complained of a tummy ache at age 3, and after 3 days, I took him to his doctor, who found NOTHING. But to humor me he kept him in the hospital, and was going to open him up the next day to explore. He brilliantly began with his appendix, and my son was full of infection, having blown his appendix, 3 days before! 9 days later we went home with an open draining incesion, and a doctore who was taken with his brillant choice. As this kids MOM, I knew he was very ill. When science understands nature and nurture, we will all be better off.

Before there were vaccines, there were epidemics, people did die. Since vaccines, people are left with life long diabilities, and we all suffer with that economicaly. It is is devestating to the MOM and DAD, and could possibly be averted if a TRUE understanding was known to those who are in the power positions.

Check out www.healthfreedomus.org. The web is NOT a bad thing unless you take the first report as gospel. Research evokes many searches, before confirmation is made, and the puzzel pieces fall into place.

For those who place no value on human life and life long suffering, vaccines, a &quot;one size fits all&quot; is a &quot;good thing&quot; How sad , for our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CDC, <a href="http://www.cdc.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov</a>  has a fact page on vaccines. I included in my earlier post some of the ingredients that many people have allergic reactions to. I agree that vaccine language should not be in the Homeland Security ACT but it is, and sections 1714,1715,1716 and 1717, protect companies like Eli Lilly from lawsuits by removing liability. George Bush senior sat on Eli Lilly&#8217;s board in the 1970&#8242;s. Small world huh?</p>
<p>&quot;FDA warns Merck about Vaccine plant problems&quot; {Reuters] This is a FDA letter of finding</p>
<p>&quot;significant objectional conditions&quot; during an inspection beginning 11-07 and ending 1-08, in a plant that makes Gardasil. And yes some girls are experiencing health issues after receiving this &quot;wonder&quot; vaccine.</p>
<p>&quot;It is not the Scientist who has the best product but the Scientist who puts on the best show&quot;  and haven&#8217;t we American&#8217;s  used that as a measure for too long about far too many things?</p>
<p> While not ever child develops Autism as a result of vaccines, and reports put this at 1 in 150 children, why do we allow 5 vaccines at once and thus make it even more difficult to pin point the one that could be responsible for a specific ailment.</p>
<p>I read recently that children can develope speaking issues, per vaccines, and I wept. It was an ah ha moment. I have been researching very dilligently, as I had a 2nd child who did not speak[as to be understood by others] and I requested he be tested. His doctor say he was young, just to let it go, but I insisted and we found he had a severe disfunction and required intense therapy. I then recalled shortly before his 1st month of life, he was ill,high temperture ect, classic, after vaccine symtoms, and I think it is very possible that the speech issue was related to his sensitivity to a substance in his vaccine. CALL it a HUNCH. Whatever, same kid complained of a tummy ache at age 3, and after 3 days, I took him to his doctor, who found NOTHING. But to humor me he kept him in the hospital, and was going to open him up the next day to explore. He brilliantly began with his appendix, and my son was full of infection, having blown his appendix, 3 days before! 9 days later we went home with an open draining incesion, and a doctore who was taken with his brillant choice. As this kids MOM, I knew he was very ill. When science understands nature and nurture, we will all be better off.</p>
<p>Before there were vaccines, there were epidemics, people did die. Since vaccines, people are left with life long diabilities, and we all suffer with that economicaly. It is is devestating to the MOM and DAD, and could possibly be averted if a TRUE understanding was known to those who are in the power positions.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.healthfreedomus.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthfreedomus.org</a>. The web is NOT a bad thing unless you take the first report as gospel. Research evokes many searches, before confirmation is made, and the puzzel pieces fall into place.</p>
<p>For those who place no value on human life and life long suffering, vaccines, a &quot;one size fits all&quot; is a &quot;good thing&quot; How sad , for our children.</p>
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		<title>By: clayvessel</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>clayvessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A word of advice to Arthur Allen: Don&#039;t reprint every word you read from CDC and NIH press releases as the gospel truth.  That&#039;s LAZY journalism... and it eventually subverts our democracy by allowing liars to get away with their lies at the expense of public health and decency.  Why do you believe every lie you are told just because someone has a government ID card?



The NIH has  NEVER conducted any autism studies of the UNVACCINATED...yet they issue reams of false propaganda stating that there&#039;s no link between autism and vaccines..... they are being dishonest under the cover of &quot;science&quot;  and only good investigative journalists can share the truth with the public -- to rectify this sad situation.  The Amish do not vaccinate their children and autism is almost nonexistant in their communities, as reported by their doctors.  The NIH just ignores this important evidence and continues LYING about vaccines--- and reporters gobble up the misinformation..



Paul Mead has lied to the public on many occasions regarding LYMERIX-- the damaging vaccine for Lyme disease.  This vaccine was never withdrawn due to &quot;lack of demand&quot; (as stated by Paul Mead) -- it was withdrawn because it DAMAGED thousands of people.  NIH&#039;s Paul Mead is thus a LIAR,  and in the pocket of the big drug companies who will stop at nothing to peddle their poisons even it results in a life time of damage to children.



Journalists like Arthur Allen are part and parcel to the LIE when they unthinkingly  reprint press releases without asking further questions and doing in depth research as a check to government &quot;propaganda&quot; designed to protect the rear ends of NIH officials.  The NYT and Washington Post should be ashamed of their reporting!



When journalists fail to properly invetigate government&#039;s statements----  we get tyranny ---as government officials are bought off by big pharma--- and untold suffering is the result of these lies.



Scientists may be intelligent --- but they are not necessarily moral individuals--- and good journalism should keep them in check.



Sadly, good journalism is now a thing of the past...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word of advice to Arthur Allen: Don&#8217;t reprint every word you read from CDC and NIH press releases as the gospel truth.  That&#8217;s LAZY journalism&#8230; and it eventually subverts our democracy by allowing liars to get away with their lies at the expense of public health and decency.  Why do you believe every lie you are told just because someone has a government ID card?</p>
<p>The NIH has  NEVER conducted any autism studies of the UNVACCINATED&#8230;yet they issue reams of false propaganda stating that there&#8217;s no link between autism and vaccines&#8230;.. they are being dishonest under the cover of &quot;science&quot;  and only good investigative journalists can share the truth with the public &#8212; to rectify this sad situation.  The Amish do not vaccinate their children and autism is almost nonexistant in their communities, as reported by their doctors.  The NIH just ignores this important evidence and continues LYING about vaccines&#8212; and reporters gobble up the misinformation..</p>
<p>Paul Mead has lied to the public on many occasions regarding LYMERIX&#8211; the damaging vaccine for Lyme disease.  This vaccine was never withdrawn due to &quot;lack of demand&quot; (as stated by Paul Mead) &#8212; it was withdrawn because it DAMAGED thousands of people.  NIH&#8217;s Paul Mead is thus a LIAR,  and in the pocket of the big drug companies who will stop at nothing to peddle their poisons even it results in a life time of damage to children.</p>
<p>Journalists like Arthur Allen are part and parcel to the LIE when they unthinkingly  reprint press releases without asking further questions and doing in depth research as a check to government &quot;propaganda&quot; designed to protect the rear ends of NIH officials.  The NYT and Washington Post should be ashamed of their reporting!</p>
<p>When journalists fail to properly invetigate government&#8217;s statements&#8212;-  we get tyranny &#8212;as government officials are bought off by big pharma&#8212; and untold suffering is the result of these lies.</p>
<p>Scientists may be intelligent &#8212; but they are not necessarily moral individuals&#8212; and good journalism should keep them in check.</p>
<p>Sadly, good journalism is now a thing of the past&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buggsy</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>buggsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the Hypocratic oath &quot;Do no Harm&quot; sit against the greater public good arguement.

My son now with Autism developed normally until the day after his shots. That day he started to push his head into the floor and stopped speaking. medical view - some sort of ideosyncratic behaviour. Right. Test done at this time to see what was happening....none.

Can you convince me this was a coincidence. No.

I am still looking for double blind study comparing a vaccinated group useing all the vaccines injected into my son vs a non vaccinated group.

I note the CDC are not confident enough to reference any of their advice. The make generalised statements without scientific backup. No wonder people are sceptical! Why don&#039;t they have the courage to tell us that these types of studies have not been done and their advice is based upon their &quot;professional judgement&quot;.

How can they go on giving advice without the data to back it up!

I am not against vaccination but we need to do better research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the Hypocratic oath &quot;Do no Harm&quot; sit against the greater public good arguement.</p>
<p>My son now with Autism developed normally until the day after his shots. That day he started to push his head into the floor and stopped speaking. medical view &#8211; some sort of ideosyncratic behaviour. Right. Test done at this time to see what was happening&#8230;.none.</p>
<p>Can you convince me this was a coincidence. No.</p>
<p>I am still looking for double blind study comparing a vaccinated group useing all the vaccines injected into my son vs a non vaccinated group.</p>
<p>I note the CDC are not confident enough to reference any of their advice. The make generalised statements without scientific backup. No wonder people are sceptical! Why don&#8217;t they have the courage to tell us that these types of studies have not been done and their advice is based upon their &quot;professional judgement&quot;.</p>
<p>How can they go on giving advice without the data to back it up!</p>
<p>I am not against vaccination but we need to do better research.</p>
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		<title>By: jalolits</title>
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		<dc:creator>jalolits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words are missing in my comment just posted.  Lady Mary Wortley Montagu ihaugurated a campaign of inoculations against smallpox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words are missing in my comment just posted.  Lady Mary Wortley Montagu ihaugurated a campaign of inoculations against smallpox.</p>
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		<title>By: jalolits</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/1666/cdc-aims-to-appease-vaccine-critics/comment-page-1#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>jalolits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see this followup on a earlier article by Arthur Allen and to know that they are chapters of a book. The book is badly needed, as is plain from this set of comments, although it seems that authoritative information doesn&#039;t weigh much against impassioned emotionality and a poor understanding of the concept of vaccination. I hope the book includes some history, notably chapter on Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, who in 1718 came back to England from two years in Turkey as wife of the British ambassador and inaugurated a campaign against smallpox, a disease that, as a direct result of that campaign, no longer exists, except perhaps in a vial in a lab, and I think even that last sample was destroyed.  Vaccinations save lives -- that fact shouldn&#039;t be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see this followup on a earlier article by Arthur Allen and to know that they are chapters of a book. The book is badly needed, as is plain from this set of comments, although it seems that authoritative information doesn&#8217;t weigh much against impassioned emotionality and a poor understanding of the concept of vaccination. I hope the book includes some history, notably chapter on Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, who in 1718 came back to England from two years in Turkey as wife of the British ambassador and inaugurated a campaign against smallpox, a disease that, as a direct result of that campaign, no longer exists, except perhaps in a vial in a lab, and I think even that last sample was destroyed.  Vaccinations save lives &#8212; that fact shouldn&#8217;t be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: mpsemac</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpsemac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basic science research findings (see gingertaylor</description>
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		<title>By: alyric</title>
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		<dc:creator>alyric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that both Terry and Jon Poling have stated publicly that vaccines have caused their daughter&#039;s autism.  Stating it so does not make it so.   The HHS has conceded no such thing.  Such a pity that the HHS made any concession at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that both Terry and Jon Poling have stated publicly that vaccines have caused their daughter&#8217;s autism.  Stating it so does not make it so.   The HHS has conceded no such thing.  Such a pity that the HHS made any concession at all.</p>
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