Comments on: Stop Obama/Bayh 08

By: aspergirl

aspergirl — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:05:38 +0000

I'm so tired of the VP debate. Obama is so weak and inadequate as a candidate that almost ANY VP pick who's not Hillary Clinton, doesn't fully compensate for all his weaknesses. And the only reason Hillary Clinton does is that she's got experience, brains, policy and everything else Obalam lacks.

You can't make up for an inadequate presidential candidate with one VP. Obama would need at least 3 to compete on substance. Unless one of them was Clinton.

By: truegreen

truegreen — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:13:43 +0000

I don't understand the fuss over Sen. Bayh is about? Its like he's being made out be some sort of political monster. Yes. He was wrong Iraq, but when it comes to issues like the environment , reproductive rights, civil right and liberties Bayh has been on the right side. I concede Bayh is not most exciting choice, but he is the safest. Would it better if Obama chooses Hillary Clinton?

By: gdavis8848

gdavis8848 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:06:43 +0000

I agree with 100% awg34 and kevin20. Support Obama's potential picks – none are perfect and this is the sort of divisive stuff that is not helpful. The republicans are killing themselves. Let's not help them and join their iditotic, destructive approach to politics.

By: kevin20

kevin20 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:06:19 +0000

I am a progressive Democrat and I would be very supportive of Bayh as VP. He has many qualities that would make him an excellent VP. Many of the readers of this site and others like the Daily Kos seem to forget that they generally are from the leftist fringe of the Democratic party and don't represent where the vast majority of Americans are. Sure, it's nice to have your idealistic views about who should be picked, but reality dictates that Obama winning is the most important thing and a candidate like Bayh appeals to many of the voters in the middle of the political spectrum, whose votes are going to decide who wins, not the readers of sites like this one. So, cut Obama some slack, let him pick a candidate that will appeal to critical swing voting blocks and then celebrate his victory and 4 or more years in the White House. Most Democrats in the House and Senate at the time, including Hillary Clinton, voted for the war resolution for a number of (perhaps bad) reasons. But Bayh and the rest are Democrats who largely support many the many other issues that I, and you, should care about. What I most care about is Obama winning, and you should too. So, if Bayh is picked, I suggest that you accept it and work for the Obama/Bayh ticket, unless you really want John McCain as your president.

By: awg34

awg34 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:19:17 +0000

As a strong Obama supporter I am totally against trying to block the process here. This is exactly what the GOP wants. Cut down any and all potential VPs if they are not exactly in line with your opinion on policy. Don't play into their hands supporters.
Either you trust the Obama campaign or not. Anything you are concerned about, thought through, discussed or considered has been or will be by those in the inner circle of the campaign. they are privy to info you are not. SO…if they do choose the Senator from IN, HRC, or whomever, they will have thought through ALL of the arguments pro and con and concluded that he/she gives Obama the best chance to win.
the question is do you think the OBama people are smarter than the Kerry and Gore campaigns? I do.
So what we do not need right now is the typical dysfunctional, purity test, liberal discussion group mentality here. Each VP is not perfect (or even close) and each will give reason to pause. To win there has to be real compromise and if Obama wants to pick E.B. I'm all for it even though I too disagree with some of his policies.
To now attempt to push back, degrade, and put down the people who are VP options for Obama at this critical time is not helpful. McCain is only happy with this kind of petition, etc.,
The only small upside to this destructive approach here on this site and others is that the more the Net roots/Left vocally is against a VP selection for Obama the more it might help Obama with those that also vote and do not read this kind of website and are Independant voters generally turned off by the Netroots. So yes there is a small chance this anti-Bayh movement might help Obama get elected, but are you really willing to take the risk and possibly make the process more difficult for Obama and the potential of his administration? I hope not. Stop this anti Bayh or whomever approach. It is only helping the GOP.

By: ajamo

ajamo — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:46:17 +0000

I don't think Bayh is the one to fill the ticket. Someone, with knowledge of Foreign Aid, would fill the bill. Don't cross party lines to get a VP.

By: aspergirl

aspergirl — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’m so tired of the VP debate. Obama is so weak and inadequate as a candidate that almost ANY VP pick who’s not Hillary Clinton, doesn’t fully compensate for all his weaknesses. And the only reason Hillary Clinton does is that she’s got experience, brains, policy and everything else Obalam lacks.

You can’t make up for an inadequate presidential candidate with one VP. Obama would need at least 3 to compete on substance. Unless one of them was Clinton.

By: truegreen

truegreen — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I don’t understand the fuss over Sen. Bayh is about? Its like he’s being made out be some sort of political monster. Yes. He was wrong Iraq, but when it comes to issues like the environment , reproductive rights, civil right and liberties Bayh has been on the right side. I concede Bayh is not most exciting choice, but he is the safest. Would it better if Obama chooses Hillary Clinton?

By: gdavis8848

gdavis8848 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I agree with 100% awg34 and kevin20. Support Obama’s potential picks – none are perfect and this is the sort of divisive stuff that is not helpful. The republicans are killing themselves. Let’s not help them and join their iditotic, destructive approach to politics.

By: kevin20

kevin20 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I am a progressive Democrat and I would be very supportive of Bayh as VP. He has many qualities that would make him an excellent VP. Many of the readers of this site and others like the Daily Kos seem to forget that they generally are from the leftist fringe of the Democratic party and don’t represent where the vast majority of Americans are. Sure, it’s nice to have your idealistic views about who should be picked, but reality dictates that Obama winning is the most important thing and a candidate like Bayh appeals to many of the voters in the middle of the political spectrum, whose votes are going to decide who wins, not the readers of sites like this one. So, cut Obama some slack, let him pick a candidate that will appeal to critical swing voting blocks and then celebrate his victory and 4 or more years in the White House. Most Democrats in the House and Senate at the time, including Hillary Clinton, voted for the war resolution for a number of (perhaps bad) reasons. But Bayh and the rest are Democrats who largely support many the many other issues that I, and you, should care about. What I most care about is Obama winning, and you should too. So, if Bayh is picked, I suggest that you accept it and work for the Obama/Bayh ticket, unless you really want John McCain as your president.