You know what doesn’t inspire confidence? A guy who says he found Saddam’s WMD. But what really doesn’t inspire confidence? When that guy says the military has invented… a death ray. Sharon Weinberger reports for Danger Room on one Dave Gaubatz.

DR: What sort of animals would they use?


Gaubatz: Goats, primarily.


DR: Can you describe what took place with the animals?


Gaubatz: They’d bring the animals in, put them in the pens. They’d put curtains down, or a wall, to see if [the beam] could go through walls. And it would. You can go to different degrees; you can do nonlethal. But it was not designed as nonlethal.


DR: Would the animals die quickly?


Gaubatz: It was quick.