CIA Still Stonewalls on JFK Mystery Man

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Flouting a federal court order, the CIA refused Wednesday to make public long-secret records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.


At a federal court hearing in Washington, CIA attorneys declined to provide any records related to the secret operations of a deceased undercover officer named George Joannides whose role in the JFK story has never been explained by the agency.


A three-judge appellate court panel ruled in December that the agency had to search its files for records of Joannides’ secret operations in 1963, when he served undercover in Miami running "psychological warfare" operations against the government of Fidel Castro. The court also ordered the CIA to explain why 17 reports on Joannides’ secret operations in 1962-1964 are missing from the National Archives.


The CIA provided no written explanation of its actions during a hearing before Judge Richard Leon. Afterwords, agency attorney John Truong claimed orally that a search of files on Joannides operations found no records responsive to my 2003 Freedom of Information Act request.


Truong  offered no explanation, written or oral of the missing records, In December, Judge Judith Rogers ruled that the CIA’s previous explanation of the 17 missing reports  was inadequate. "On remand the CIA must supplement its explanation," she wrote. That has yet to happen, despite the agency promising to comply with the appellate court order by April 30.


 John Tunheim, a federal judge who chaired the Assassination Records Review Board in the 1990s, said the Joannides files should be made public.


"Had the Review Board known the truth about George Joannides everything bearing his name would have been made public," Tunheim said in an interview. The ARRB, a civilian review panel created by Congress in the wake of the controversy over Oliver Stone’s "JFK," declassified thousands of assassination records between 1994 and 1998


Joannides, who died in 1991, is the most curious figure to emerge in the vast JFK literature in recent years. Unbeknownst to investigators, Joannides’ propaganda network proved influential in the media reaction to JFK’s murder. Declassified CIA records show that he gave $25,000 a month to the leaders of a Cuban student group whose members had a series of encounters with Lee Harvey Oswald in August 1963. When Kennedy was shot dead on a Dallas street three months later, the CIA-funded group made headlines around the world by publicizing Oswald’s pro-Castro activities and linking him to the Cuban leader.


Joannides’ role in enabling that story remained secret for 38 years. His financial support for Oswald’s Cuban antagonists was not disclosed to the Warren Commission which investigated Kennedys’ death and concluded that Oswald acted alone. In 1978 Joannides was called out of retirement to serve as the Agency’s liaison to a congressional committee that reopened the JFK investigation. The Agency did not disclose his role in the events of 1963 to Congress. The story of Joannides’ actions did not begin to emerge until 2001 when I published a story in a Miami newspaper.


Tunheim said the JFK Records Act of 1992 requires an independent evaluation of the Joannides files. "He was central to the time period, and central to the [JFK] story. There is no question we were mislead on Joannides for a long time," he said.


Officials of the National Archives have also sought access to the Joannides files in recent years but have been rebuffed by the Agency.


The CIA must explain its actions in writing to Judge Leon by June 11.

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toryii
Comment posted May 5, 2008 @ 2:33 pm

Last:

The reason this blog site, and this topic was published at this blog site, was because it deliberately fails to recognize paragraph separations. The reason it doesn’t is to help make people who blog here, AND believe in the conspiracy that the CIA was behind the JFK murder, appear (by their poor writing style) to be crazy.


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 2:03 pm

Oswald was a consistent proponent of communism, and he ‘may have’ tried to either kill, or just fire a warning shot at a right wing retired army general. While I believe he probably killed a cop, he was not cold blooded (a paradox). He liked JFK, indicating he was a leftist.

Is there proof Oswald was the person who mail-ordered the marchano rifle from Chicago, when he could walk into any gun store in Texas and buy one (using the same alias)? Oswald may not have known the person who did mail-order the rifle under his alias (if it was his alias.) Maybe it was Mohrenschildt who gave Oswald the rifle.

The CIA, before it attempts to hypnotize, will use a person more susceptible to carry out what it wants them to do. You can’t hypnotize a leftist to murder a leftist (only a right winger.) You can’t hypnotize a pacifist to murder WITHOUT grooming them to want to murder. After you groom and condition a person to murder then you hypnotize them to murder. Oswald was not a good subject to murder JFK – he wasn’t violent enough to murder a president. Plus, he just didn’t have a good enough motive. Any person can hate, even a pacifist can hate (especially to hate an opposite, a non-pacifist), but not murder. To groom a pacifist to murder you must have enough antagonists to incite the pacifist, long enough or often enough, to want to murder (and then you hypnotize it to execute the murder.) A pacifist would not be the best subject to groom AND hypnotize to murder. A better subject, to murder, would be a more violent and or hateful person.

Oswald was a better patsy than he was a murderer, especially a left wing, or moderate President. He had a wife and a kid (plenty to live for) and needed money. He was a runner for the mob and a low level worker at the Book Depository.

John Wilkes Booth hated Lincoln, Oswald never expressed that much hatred. He was murdered before anyone could completely interrogate him. Most Dallas cops were crooked (and were southern right wingers.) The idea of murdering JFK in Chicago was only a distraction. Dallas was ideal and Kennedy was a fool for riding in an open automobile in Dallas.

The entire JFK murder is a consistent right wing plot, including LBJ, a liberal, being a part of it (Oswald was a left winger):

LBJ ( a Texan) hated his junior, eastern establishment catholic president. The right wing CIA hated Kennedy for successfully resolving the Cuban Missile crisis (and avoiding nuclear armegedon), and for not helping to overthrow Castro. Irish/catholics were discriminated against or looked down on. The Kennedys were hated because their patriarch wanted to avoid WW II (the main source of hate). Nixon hated him (ties with Bebe Robozo/Cuba). Oilmen disliked him (Bush). The KKK disliked him. Both the U.S. and Cuban mafia hated the Kennedys (RFK prosecuted Hoffa while JFK refused air support for the Bay of Pigs operation). Hooover disliked him for being a left winger. JFK was a fool for exposing himself in Dallas, in the heart of southern rightwing extremism and so near to Cuba amd Cuban exiles, including mafiosos from Florida, Louisiana and Texas.

James Files is the key (until he dies) and Hoffa is dead and missing. Files was trained in South East Asia and had real experience in assasination. I forgot the name of his cohort (Roselli?). He was young, naive, groomable and sociopathic (unlike Oswald.) Files became a career criminal.

Who would you trust to execute President Kennedy ? Oswald or Files (or any other mafia hitman ?)


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 11:29 am

Winston,

Assuming Oswald murdered JFK: the bullets ‘were’ the type that would penetrate one victim and enter another. But, a marchano does need to use round nose or pointed bullets because it is a manual bolt rifle; only automatic or semiautomatic rifles need to use military type pointed bullets to prevent or minimize jamming.

Assuming Oswald didn’t murder JFK: where was the remaining ‘box’ of bullets; only three bullets were found ? Plus, there is too much evidence indicating he didn’t murder JFK. There is good evidence he was on the first floor of the Depository while JFK passed the building.

Once Oswald discovered the shooting he then realized he was a patsy because he was the person who placed the rifle on the 6th floor (he was blackmailed by a CIA operative, George D. Mohrenschildt, to place the rifle there). Mohrenschildt knew Oswald tried to kill a retired Army General. After Oswald left his room he may have shot the cop (knowing he was the patsy who was about to be arrested.) Many of the Dallas police were crooked.

Talk to James Files about Hoffa. Why is it James Files has never been murdered? Because the CIA knew he never discussed the murder with anyone (until he was jailed for life). When he did talk about it he has never implicated anyone except the mob and his now dead cohort;

JFK and RFK murders involve gunshots from two opposite directions. Oswald was not hypnotized, Sirhan may have been (and on drugs at the time.)

The CIA knew Mohrenschildt and Ruby had committed serious crimes, and were able to blackmail both of them. Ruby had to kill Oswald, Mohrenschildt had to commit suicide (why?) Ruby may have murdered either strip club dancers, or male homosexuals. Mohrenschildt killed himself to protect his wife.

Mockingbird is still in operation today. Only right wing writers are bribed or blackmailed.

We will never have a guarantee of privacy, in America, until we eliminate the CIA and the NSA.


winstonsmith999
Comment posted May 2, 2008 @ 2:37 pm

My take on the mystery of Oswald’s right-wing contacts and pseudo-leftwing political views… MKULTRA meets COINTELPRO, Oswald Is Bourne:

Mind Control: The Rosetta Stone of the JFK Assassination

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkshortartretfromind.htm

Oswald fulfills Operation Northwoods planning to complement Operation Mongoose, covered up by Operation Mockingbird:

The CIA and the Press: Complicity in the JFK Assassination Cover-Up?

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkmediaAPPENDIX%20A.htm

Oswald’s activities represent the personification of the CIA’s covert ops programs at the time, his mind was a reflection of CIA obsession with compartmentalized information and a microcosm of the Cold War itself… the procedure was described in detail by Dr. George Estabrooks as uncovered by Dr. Colin Ross.


toryii
Comment posted May 2, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

The CIA has always been owned and operated by Right Wing America. If it’s Director is appointed by a Left Wing President it is still owned and operated by the Right. The only way a court can gain Joannides’ records would be to first dismantle the CIA.

If the CIA remains in existence more Americans (and foreigners) will be assasinated.

Jimmy Hoffa was the key man (the middle man) between the CIA and James Files (Kennedy’s killer). That’s why his body has never been found.

HW and GW Bush are the only living Presidents that know what (if any) records remain in the CIA that could imcriminate Joannides and others.

Nixon was directly involved in the JFK assasination; he was the most corrupt President of them all. His best friend was Cuban mafioso Bebe Robozo.

Good luck Judge Leon, you’re gonna need it.


toryii
Comment posted May 2, 2008 @ 8:43 am

The CIA has always been owned and operated by Right Wing America. If it's Director is appointed by a Left Wing President it is still owned and operated by the Right. The only way a court can gain Joannides' records would be to first dismantle the CIA.

If the CIA remains in existence more Americans (and foreigners) will be assasinated.

Jimmy Hoffa was the key man (the middle man) between the CIA and James Files (Kennedy's killer). That's why his body has never been found.

HW and GW Bush are the only living Presidents that know what (if any) records remain in the CIA that could imcriminate Joannides and others.

Nixon was directly involved in the JFK assasination; he was the most corrupt President of them all. His best friend was Cuban mafioso Bebe Robozo.

Good luck Judge Leon, you're gonna need it.


winstonsmith999
Comment posted May 2, 2008 @ 9:37 am

My take on the mystery of Oswald's right-wing contacts and pseudo-leftwing political views… MKULTRA meets COINTELPRO, Oswald Is Bourne:

Mind Control: The Rosetta Stone of the JFK Assassination

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkshortartretfromind.htm

Oswald fulfills Operation Northwoods planning to complement Operation Mongoose, covered up by Operation Mockingbird:

The CIA and the Press: Complicity in the JFK Assassination Cover-Up?

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkmediaAPPENDIX%20A.htm

Oswald's activities represent the personification of the CIA's covert ops programs at the time, his mind was a reflection of CIA obsession with compartmentalized information and a microcosm of the Cold War itself… the procedure was described in detail by Dr. George Estabrooks as uncovered by Dr. Colin Ross.


winstonsmith999
Comment posted May 2, 2008 @ 9:37 am

My take on the mystery of Oswald's right-wing contacts and pseudo-leftwing political views… MKULTRA meets COINTELPRO, Oswald Is Bourne:

Mind Control: The Rosetta Stone of the JFK Assassination

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkshortartretfromind.htm

Oswald fulfills Operation Northwoods planning to complement Operation Mongoose, covered up by Operation Mockingbird:

The CIA and the Press: Complicity in the JFK Assassination Cover-Up?

http://winstonsmith.net/jfkmediaAPPENDIX%20A.htm

Oswald's activities represent the personification of the CIA's covert ops programs at the time, his mind was a reflection of CIA obsession with compartmentalized information and a microcosm of the Cold War itself… the procedure was described in detail by Dr. George Estabrooks as uncovered by Dr. Colin Ross.


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 6:29 am

Winston,

Assuming Oswald murdered JFK: the bullets 'were' the type that would penetrate one victim and enter another. But, a marchano does need to use round nose or pointed bullets because it is a manual bolt rifle; only automatic or semiautomatic rifles need to use military type pointed bullets to prevent or minimize jamming.

Assuming Oswald didn't murder JFK: where was the remaining 'box' of bullets; only three bullets were found ? Plus, there is too much evidence indicating he didn't murder JFK. There is good evidence he was on the first floor of the Depository while JFK passed the building.

Once Oswald discovered the shooting he then realized he was a patsy because he was the person who placed the rifle on the 6th floor (he was blackmailed by a CIA operative, George D. Mohrenschildt, to place the rifle there). Mohrenschildt knew Oswald tried to kill a retired Army General. After Oswald left his room he may have shot the cop (knowing he was the patsy who was about to be arrested.) Many of the Dallas police were crooked.

Talk to James Files about Hoffa. Why is it James Files has never been murdered? Because the CIA knew he never discussed the murder with anyone (until he was jailed for life). When he did talk about it he has never implicated anyone except the mob and his now dead cohort;

JFK and RFK murders involve gunshots from two opposite directions. Oswald was not hypnotized, Sirhan may have been (and on drugs at the time.)

The CIA knew Mohrenschildt and Ruby had committed serious crimes, and were able to blackmail both of them. Ruby had to kill Oswald, Mohrenschildt had to commit suicide (why?) Ruby may have murdered either strip club dancers, or male homosexuals. Mohrenschildt killed himself to protect his wife.

Mockingbird is still in operation today. Only right wing writers are bribed or blackmailed.

We will never have a guarantee of privacy, in America, until we eliminate the CIA and the NSA.


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 6:29 am

Winston,

Assuming Oswald murdered JFK: the bullets 'were' the type that would penetrate one victim and enter another. But, a marchano does need to use round nose or pointed bullets because it is a manual bolt rifle; only automatic or semiautomatic rifles need to use military type pointed bullets to prevent or minimize jamming.

Assuming Oswald didn't murder JFK: where was the remaining 'box' of bullets; only three bullets were found ? Plus, there is too much evidence indicating he didn't murder JFK. There is good evidence he was on the first floor of the Depository while JFK passed the building.

Once Oswald discovered the shooting he then realized he was a patsy because he was the person who placed the rifle on the 6th floor (he was blackmailed by a CIA operative, George D. Mohrenschildt, to place the rifle there). Mohrenschildt knew Oswald tried to kill a retired Army General. After Oswald left his room he may have shot the cop (knowing he was the patsy who was about to be arrested.) Many of the Dallas police were crooked.

Talk to James Files about Hoffa. Why is it James Files has never been murdered? Because the CIA knew he never discussed the murder with anyone (until he was jailed for life). When he did talk about it he has never implicated anyone except the mob and his now dead cohort;

JFK and RFK murders involve gunshots from two opposite directions. Oswald was not hypnotized, Sirhan may have been (and on drugs at the time.)

The CIA knew Mohrenschildt and Ruby had committed serious crimes, and were able to blackmail both of them. Ruby had to kill Oswald, Mohrenschildt had to commit suicide (why?) Ruby may have murdered either strip club dancers, or male homosexuals. Mohrenschildt killed himself to protect his wife.

Mockingbird is still in operation today. Only right wing writers are bribed or blackmailed.

We will never have a guarantee of privacy, in America, until we eliminate the CIA and the NSA.


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 9:03 am

Oswald was a consistent proponent of communism, and he 'may have' tried to either kill, or just fire a warning shot at a right wing retired army general. While I believe he probably killed a cop, he was not cold blooded (a paradox). He liked JFK, indicating he was a leftist.

Is there proof Oswald was the person who mail-ordered the marchano rifle from Chicago, when he could walk into any gun store in Texas and buy one (using the same alias)? Oswald may not have known the person who did mail-order the rifle under his alias (if it was his alias.) Maybe it was Mohrenschildt who gave Oswald the rifle.

The CIA, before it attempts to hypnotize, will use a person more susceptible to carry out what it wants them to do. You can't hypnotize a leftist to murder a leftist (only a right winger.) You can't hypnotize a pacifist to murder WITHOUT grooming them to want to murder. After you groom and condition a person to murder then you hypnotize them to murder. Oswald was not a good subject to murder JFK – he wasn't violent enough to murder a president. Plus, he just didn't have a good enough motive. Any person can hate, even a pacifist can hate (especially to hate an opposite, a non-pacifist), but not murder. To groom a pacifist to murder you must have enough antagonists to incite the pacifist, long enough or often enough, to want to murder (and then you hypnotize it to execute the murder.) A pacifist would not be the best subject to groom AND hypnotize to murder. A better subject, to murder, would be a more violent and or hateful person.

Oswald was a better patsy than he was a murderer, especially a left wing, or moderate President. He had a wife and a kid (plenty to live for) and needed money. He was a runner for the mob and a low level worker at the Book Depository.

John Wilkes Booth hated Lincoln, Oswald never expressed that much hatred. He was murdered before anyone could completely interrogate him. Most Dallas cops were crooked (and were southern right wingers.) The idea of murdering JFK in Chicago was only a distraction. Dallas was ideal and Kennedy was a fool for riding in an open automobile in Dallas.

The entire JFK murder is a consistent right wing plot, including LBJ, a liberal, being a part of it (Oswald was a left winger):

LBJ ( a Texan) hated his junior, eastern establishment catholic president. The right wing CIA hated Kennedy for successfully resolving the Cuban Missile crisis (and avoiding nuclear armegedon), and for not helping to overthrow Castro. Irish/catholics were discriminated against or looked down on. The Kennedys were hated because their patriarch wanted to avoid WW II (the main source of hate). Nixon hated him (ties with Bebe Robozo/Cuba). Oilmen disliked him (Bush). The KKK disliked him. Both the U.S. and Cuban mafia hated the Kennedys (RFK prosecuted Hoffa while JFK refused air support for the Bay of Pigs operation). Hooover disliked him for being a left winger. JFK was a fool for exposing himself in Dallas, in the heart of southern rightwing extremism and so near to Cuba amd Cuban exiles, including mafiosos from Florida, Louisiana and Texas.

James Files is the key (until he dies) and Hoffa is dead and missing. Files was trained in South East Asia and had real experience in assasination. I forgot the name of his cohort (Roselli?). He was young, naive, groomable and sociopathic (unlike Oswald.) Files became a career criminal.

Who would you trust to execute President Kennedy ? Oswald or Files (or any other mafia hitman ?)


toryii
Comment posted May 3, 2008 @ 9:03 am

Oswald was a consistent proponent of communism, and he 'may have' tried to either kill, or just fire a warning shot at a right wing retired army general. While I believe he probably killed a cop, he was not cold blooded (a paradox). He liked JFK, indicating he was a leftist.

Is there proof Oswald was the person who mail-ordered the marchano rifle from Chicago, when he could walk into any gun store in Texas and buy one (using the same alias)? Oswald may not have known the person who did mail-order the rifle under his alias (if it was his alias.) Maybe it was Mohrenschildt who gave Oswald the rifle.

The CIA, before it attempts to hypnotize, will use a person more susceptible to carry out what it wants them to do. You can't hypnotize a leftist to murder a leftist (only a right winger.) You can't hypnotize a pacifist to murder WITHOUT grooming them to want to murder. After you groom and condition a person to murder then you hypnotize them to murder. Oswald was not a good subject to murder JFK – he wasn't violent enough to murder a president. Plus, he just didn't have a good enough motive. Any person can hate, even a pacifist can hate (especially to hate an opposite, a non-pacifist), but not murder. To groom a pacifist to murder you must have enough antagonists to incite the pacifist, long enough or often enough, to want to murder (and then you hypnotize it to execute the murder.) A pacifist would not be the best subject to groom AND hypnotize to murder. A better subject, to murder, would be a more violent and or hateful person.

Oswald was a better patsy than he was a murderer, especially a left wing, or moderate President. He had a wife and a kid (plenty to live for) and needed money. He was a runner for the mob and a low level worker at the Book Depository.

John Wilkes Booth hated Lincoln, Oswald never expressed that much hatred. He was murdered before anyone could completely interrogate him. Most Dallas cops were crooked (and were southern right wingers.) The idea of murdering JFK in Chicago was only a distraction. Dallas was ideal and Kennedy was a fool for riding in an open automobile in Dallas.

The entire JFK murder is a consistent right wing plot, including LBJ, a liberal, being a part of it (Oswald was a left winger):

LBJ ( a Texan) hated his junior, eastern establishment catholic president. The right wing CIA hated Kennedy for successfully resolving the Cuban Missile crisis (and avoiding nuclear armegedon), and for not helping to overthrow Castro. Irish/catholics were discriminated against or looked down on. The Kennedys were hated because their patriarch wanted to avoid WW II (the main source of hate). Nixon hated him (ties with Bebe Robozo/Cuba). Oilmen disliked him (Bush). The KKK disliked him. Both the U.S. and Cuban mafia hated the Kennedys (RFK prosecuted Hoffa while JFK refused air support for the Bay of Pigs operation). Hooover disliked him for being a left winger. JFK was a fool for exposing himself in Dallas, in the heart of southern rightwing extremism and so near to Cuba amd Cuban exiles, including mafiosos from Florida, Louisiana and Texas.

James Files is the key (until he dies) and Hoffa is dead and missing. Files was trained in South East Asia and had real experience in assasination. I forgot the name of his cohort (Roselli?). He was young, naive, groomable and sociopathic (unlike Oswald.) Files became a career criminal.

Who would you trust to execute President Kennedy ? Oswald or Files (or any other mafia hitman ?)


toryii
Comment posted May 5, 2008 @ 9:33 am

Last:

The reason this blog site, and this topic was published at this blog site, was because it deliberately fails to recognize paragraph separations. The reason it doesn't is to help make people who blog here, AND believe in the conspiracy that the CIA was behind the JFK murder, appear (by their poor writing style) to be crazy.


toryii
Comment posted May 5, 2008 @ 9:33 am

Last:

The reason this blog site, and this topic was published at this blog site, was because it deliberately fails to recognize paragraph separations. The reason it doesn't is to help make people who blog here, AND believe in the conspiracy that the CIA was behind the JFK murder, appear (by their poor writing style) to be crazy.


Richard
Comment posted April 9, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

The CIA was not invalved!


Richard
Comment posted April 9, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

The CIA was not invalved!


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