Comments on: McCain Completely Misrepresents U.S.-Iraq Basing Deal http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal National News in Context Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:56:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: OH http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal/comment-page-1#comment-35795 OH Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:05:00 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=14367#comment-35795 It is time for Americans to ignore what Conservatives say, particularly about Iraq. It is time for Americans to ignore what Conservatives say, particularly about Iraq.

]]> By: Pat Williams http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal/comment-page-1#comment-35796 Pat Williams Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:23:31 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=14367#comment-35796 This is how the Bush administration has been doing it. Legal wording on agreements and in laws that seem to be clear are twisted to mean something else. This tells us that McCain, as president, would continue with this abominable practice that has broken the bonds of trust and brought dishonor to our nation. In the end, all we really have is our word to uphold what we say we will do. When the trust is gone, the foundation of a civil society and democracy including trade and commerce goes with it. Simply, that is what is happening now. This is how the Bush administration has been doing it. Legal wording on agreements and in laws that seem to be clear are twisted to mean something else. This tells us that McCain, as president, would continue with this abominable practice that has broken the bonds of trust and brought dishonor to our nation. In the end, all we really have is our word to uphold what we say we will do. When the trust is gone, the foundation of a civil society and democracy including trade and commerce goes with it. Simply, that is what is happening now.

]]> By: OH http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal/comment-page-1#comment-10122 OH Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:05:00 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=14367#comment-10122 It is time for Americans to ignore what Conservatives say, particularly about Iraq. It is time for Americans to ignore what Conservatives say, particularly about Iraq.

]]> By: Pat Williams http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal/comment-page-1#comment-10115 Pat Williams Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:23:31 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=14367#comment-10115 This is how the Bush administration has been doing it. Legal wording on agreements and in laws that seem to be clear are twisted to mean something else. This tells us that McCain, as president, would continue with this abominable practice that has broken the bonds of trust and brought dishonor to our nation. In the end, all we really have is our word to uphold what we say we will do. When the trust is gone, the foundation of a civil society and democracy including trade and commerce goes with it. Simply, that is what is happening now. This is how the Bush administration has been doing it. Legal wording on agreements and in laws that seem to be clear are twisted to mean something else. This tells us that McCain, as president, would continue with this abominable practice that has broken the bonds of trust and brought dishonor to our nation. In the end, all we really have is our word to uphold what we say we will do. When the trust is gone, the foundation of a civil society and democracy including trade and commerce goes with it. Simply, that is what is happening now.

]]> By: ambivalentmaybe http://washingtonindependent.com/14367/mccain-completely-misrepresents-us-iraq-basing-deal/comment-page-1#comment-9745 ambivalentmaybe Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:27:29 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=14367#comment-9745 On the SOFA, Jonathan Schwarz seems to be of the opinion that "the deadline has no teeth, and the SOFA is already looking forward to U.S. troops staying there even after the 'withdrawal.'" If his interpretation is correct, or at least a plausible interpretation of the agreement, then McCain may not be as clueless as you and Mr. Ackerman say he is. Not about this, anyway.<br><br>Would you care to address Schwarz's points? His post is here:<br><a href="http://thismodernworld.com/4517">http://thismodernworld.com/4517</a><br><br>The key point seems to be who on the Iraqi side needs to approve any extension or request for US troops to remain for training. Is is just Maliki, or does the Iraqi parliament get to weigh in, too? Schwarz could also be mistaken in his belief that Maliki wants US forces to stay in the country. <br><br>(I've posted this same comment at Obsidian Wings, where Eric Martin agrees with you:<br><a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/10/just-dropped-in.html">http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2...</a>.) On the SOFA, Jonathan Schwarz seems to be of the opinion that “the deadline has no teeth, and the SOFA is already looking forward to U.S. troops staying there even after the 'withdrawal.'” If his interpretation is correct, or at least a plausible interpretation of the agreement, then McCain may not be as clueless as you and Mr. Ackerman say he is. Not about this, anyway.

Would you care to address Schwarz's points? His post is here:
http://thismodernworld.com/4517

The key point seems to be who on the Iraqi side needs to approve any extension or request for US troops to remain for training. Is is just Maliki, or does the Iraqi parliament get to weigh in, too? Schwarz could also be mistaken in his belief that Maliki wants US forces to stay in the country.

(I've posted this same comment at Obsidian Wings, where Eric Martin agrees with you:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2....)

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