Obama Claps Back With Keating Five

Monday, October 06, 2008 at 11:38 am

When the McCain campaign announced this weekend that it would start attacking Sen. Barack Obama via guilt by association, peddling smears about people he barely knows, I thought the tack would lead to the Keating Five.  But I didn’t know it would happen this quickly.

The Obama campaign swung into action immediately.  By the time the Sunday news shows were taping, Democratic surrogates were hitting McCain with opposition research on his associations with extremist, racist groups (Begala) and the Keating Five (Emanuel). Today, of course, camp Obama is pushing a new Keating Economics website, which begins streaming a documentary about McCain’s Keating problem at noon.

Obama’s campaign has never pushed the Keating button before, so this attack carries an original punch–and is clearly salient given the current financial crisis. Because the scandal involved McCain’s actions in public service, it is more likely to arise during the remaining two debates.

McCain’s dredging up of Bill Ayers, in contrast, is not only old news but has no link to anything Obama has done in public life.  Patrick Ruffini, a Republican operative who worked on Bush’s reelection campaign, said today that McCain’s Ayers attacks are so old that airing them now “appears desperate.”

Desperate and risky — given the corrupt skeletons in McCain’s closet.

For more on what The Keating Five says about McCain’s candidacy, check out “Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis,” a September TWI article by John Dougherty.



Da Silva
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 9:48 am

He is running for a long held personal ambition:

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 9:53 am

This one will 'bust-his-head-to-the-white-meat'!

McCain supports skinheads
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 9:54 am

I think the word McCain is hinting at is: 'Black people are scary and risky'. I think I'll post that video of McCain giving his support for skinheads and the REAL reason why he hired Steve Schmidt. I'm not that surprised to see McCain turning to racism to win this elections. The word is he mistreated his African American solders like *&^%. Video to come very soon by one of his WHITE comrades.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 9:57 am

McCain doesn't just appear desperate, he is desperate. He ought to be more careful, maybe Arizona will dump his as their senator as well, since he seems to be mentally unstable.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:07 am

This was a pretty high-quality video piece – not a fast-hacked out ad from the latest new cycle sound bites. Which seems to prove that the Obama team has had this sitting in the background, waiting to be used if necessary, when necessary. Now with the DOW tanking (currently -520) I'm not sure there was a more appropriate time.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:11 am

Karma's a bitch

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:13 am

appears desperate???

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:16 am

For an amazing –and very scary– look back at McCain's life and the careful fabrication of the myth surrounding his “hero” status, see: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/mak…


Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:18 am

Wow! Its good to see that the Obama/Biden campaign is not sitting around, waiting for more lame blows from the other side.

That video gave me the chills….

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:27 am

McCain doesn't just appear desperate, he IS desperate.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:30 am

Tit for tat. McCain ain't no St. John after he disassociated himself from the Wright controversy. NOW, he has changed his mind and the mindless surrogate would be dictator chicken Sarah Palin has become the perfect impersonator of lies to kingdom come. Sarah the devout evangelical has danced with the wolves. Let's wait for Troopergate outcome so Sarah can hold up her head high up she wasn't really lying at all. Her, simply outrageous? Understatement.

5 Pinnochios for your lies Palin. You are a disgusting person to be added to women's achievements all these decades. Fire your arsenal in Alaska so you can get more foreign policy experience to deal with Medvedev and Putin. That is, if you have a career after the elections. That goes for Joe lying Liebermann.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:32 am

I'm interested in this video. Go file it too in Huffnews. Thanks

Julia C
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:34 am

The Keating 5 stuff should have come up long ago. McCain claims to be for reform and says he wants regulation in the financial markets, yet his entire history in public service is of deregulation, deregulation, deregulation. His campaign is populated with financial lobbyists for whom he will always do their bidding. Phil Gramm, the man who McCain would make Secretary of the Treasury, is one of those directly responsible for the financial crisis this country is in now. There's no running or hiding from this — John McCain must be held accountable for his record. And that includes his involvement in Keating 5.

Julia C
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:39 am

The media says over and over that when McCain was held captive, he “never broke.” But that's not true. McCain himself has admitted that under torture he signed a false confession. This is extremely important in light of McCain's support of the Bush administration's torture program. McCain is uniquely qualified to speak, from experience, to the fact that torture does NOT provide accurate information and therefore is useless as a tactic. Yet he doesn't do that. He votes instead to continue torture programs and reveals that he has no humanity. When one can go through what he has gone through and then advocate FOR the very thing that did indeed break him, he shows what kind of person is really is.

Liz C.
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:41 am

I've seen the video. Well done. It was not easy viewing it, because it began and stopped several times. However, I got the point. Mc Cain is finished. He was finished before this video and he is even more finished now. He simply can not win amidst the finacial crisis we are facing. He must know this at some level, and life for him must seem very strange at this point. I would like to see Obama carry my home state of NC. The fact that NC is now being called a “toss up” just indicates how much trouble McACain is in.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:42 am

The American public needs a reminder of who the real McCain is and what kind of career he has had while representing the AMERICAN people in the US Senate. Obviously, he did not learn anything during the Keating scandal. Talk about being unprepared to lead……………………..unless you want to be led into a bigger morass than we are currently in!

Julia C
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:43 am

McCain is running for president because, like George W. Bush, he has an ongoing daddy vendetta. McCain never made admiral like his father and his grandfather before him. Like Bush, he was at the bottom of his class and didn't have what it took to measure up to his father's accomplishments. Right now, the only way he can best his daddy is to become president — and this is his last chance to try. That's why all the stops have come out. He will do anything, stop at nothing, to be better than his daddy. What a sad, pathetic man John McCain has turned out to be.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:47 am

Here are two terrific investigative pieces from Rolling Stone.


McCain isn't only desperate- He's CRAZY

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:54 am

How about: “McCain is CLEARLY desperate”:


Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:57 am

I certainly will not vote for him when he is up for reelection to Senate. He's gone completely Captain Ahab, abandoning his ship and crew for the dubious opportunity to inflict a little pain in Obama.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:57 am

Obama and McCain have been cleared of these scandals. Someone might want to remind Palin that her investigation is still on going…and scandal is not something she wants America paying attention to…stick to the economy that is what real “average Joe six packs” care about…wink wink wink!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:00 am

It seems John McCain has so many glass houses that he cannot keep count.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:02 am

And how about McCain's connection to convicted Watergate felon G. Gordon Liddy? If Obama had ever said that Ayer's “principles and philosophy” are what keeps this country great, there'd be an outcry in the corporate media. But McCain explicitly endorsed the views espoused by the unrepentant criminal Liddy using exactly those terms. The article below, written by conservative columnist Steven Chapman, from the Chicago Trib appears to be the first to focus on the McCain's scandalous Liddy connection:


This article from the Huffington Post reports on Liddy's expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler.


McCain needs to be asked if he “denounces and rejects” Liddy's endorsement and whether he's going to return this criminal's substantial contributions to his campaign.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:05 am

As to your “home state of NC) : I was one among 28,000 people who began lining up at 10:00Pm on the NIGHT BEFORE Sunday's Obama rally in Asheville. I waited in a line eventually stretching over 2 miles long. And I loved every minute of it. There is something very powerful happening here. I Think on election day we'll all see what it is. I also think your beloved NC will be BRIGHT BLUE.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:07 am

I had trouble getting it to load and run too. I think we crashed the server :-} The email went out to the donor list early this morning and I think we were all sitting there counting down to 12:00 waiting to push the button. It took me a half hour to get it to load and run smoothly.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:08 am

Obama talking about and scolding about the keating 5 seems disingenous as he just had one of the keating 5 introducing hiim at a rally the other day (john glenn). hmm.. interesting.

Mike Holness
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:11 am

McCaine's deperate measure of attempting to assassinate the character of Senator Obama contradicts his claims of being honorable. By resorting to these below-the-belt tactics, as oppose to discussing the sorry state of our economy, the McCaine camp is re-enforcing the long held view that they do not have a genuine concern for the well being of the populace.

Jim S
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:16 am

Obama was only 8 years old when Ayers was protesting and doing his other radical things. On the other hand, McCain was investigated for his role in the Keating five much later and has a well known reputation for being “in bed” with lobbyists. Moreover, John McCain has had a close relationship with another well known activitist named David Ifshin and still does despite his role as activitist during the Vietnam war. So If McCain and Palin want to play that game they'll lose this time around.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:17 am

some people think that the keating stuff should have come up before … i think Obama played it perfectly … mccain's most potent political tool was what people thought of him in the press and how that molded public perception of him … if you drop the keating stuff in june, when mccain is still regarded as an all around good guy, you risk the ” smear” charge (even though it isn't a “smear”) from the media and the tarnishing of your own “good guy” brand. but after the steady erosion of the “maverick” brand over the last month, people have lost almost all confidence in John Mccain. Now the public is ready to accept such an explosive and absolutely true charge … mccain is toast …. good play team obama !!!!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:18 am

Ari……I saw you owning a Rethug strategist on msnbc……..this is the kind of response that BO need to give whenever they throw crap at him.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:19 am

Please read the following article in the Phoenix Times News from November 29, 1989:


Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:24 am

John Glenn is not, unlike John McCain, running for President of the United States on a platform of tax cuts for the wealthy and more deregulation of the sort that enabled the Keating debacle. If he were, the Republicans would certainly use his Keating 5 membership against him.

McCain says he learned his lesson from the Keating 5. But he hasn't even learned to avoid getting caught. See that photo of McCain boarding the yacht of a now-convicted Italian con man and the reports of McCain's dealings with shady Russian oligarchs to take over the economy of Montenegro (where the yacht photo was taken).

Obama/Joe Mama
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:28 am

Everyone kept complaining that Obama was too soft and not hitting back hard enough during the primaries and early in the presidential race…..Now you will see the trump cards being played by Obama to counteract the slime that the McCain camp is using…..and since it wasn't used before in any marketing it will be fresh and people should notice them….unlike old stories that have already be vetted by the general public regarding Obama that McCain is using……desparate people using desparate measures…..give them enough rope and they will hang themselves without Obama having to stoop to their low level tactics…..Obama needs to RISE ABOVE THE CROWD and continue to show class and confidence…..finally Americans are starting to smell the stench and are removing the rose colored glasses that too many have been wearing for 7 1/2 years……


Change IS coming…..it's called Obama/Biden 08!!!!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:28 am

Obama stated:.. If they keep lying about me, I am going to start telling the truth about them….

Drip, Drip, Drip….. What are the odds of a public meltdown tomorrow???

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:28 am

exactly what they needed to do. stay above the fray and then occasionally hit back hard. they can't drag him down to the gutter and they're getting desperate. If any of the Ayers ties stick to obama, the keating stuff surely will stick to mccain.

GoBama: http://tinyurl.com/6xr3b7

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:50 am

McCain Corrupt Skeletons:
Keating 5
G.Gordon Liddy
John Singlaud
The Mob Boss
Sara Palin – trooper gate, affairs,
Rick Davis – Fannie Mae

Vote record Against Vets
Votes Against Womens Issues
Votes Against Education
Votes For the War in Iraq

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 12:11 pm

John McCain is so desperate it's pathetic. The American economy is in real trouble and instead of calming fears and talking about a way to solve it he just smears his opponent. It is sad and dishonorable. McCain probably thought Obama wouldn't hit back but I think the Keating 5 scandal is relevant. And to think I used to respect John McCain.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 12:17 pm

No, the Question is really … who is the Real John McCain

Connection to convicted Watergate felon G. Gordon Liddy
Connection to An extremist who hates blacks and Jews John Singlaud
Connection to 1980/90's S&L Scandal though Keating 5
Connection to now-convicted Italian con man
Connection to shady Russian oligarchs to take over the economy of Montenegro

Selection of Sara Palin as running mate who is involved in obstruction of justice and abuse of power investigation trooper gate
Selection of Rick Davis a wealthy lobbyist who got paid from Fannie Mae
Decision to go negative in this campaign
Decision to pretend to Suspend Campaign.

Voting records
Senate Voting Record Against GI Bill and Other spending for medical services.
Senate Voting Record Against Women’s Issues like Maternity leave and Birth Control
Senate Voting record Against Minimum wage increases
Senate Voting Record against Children’s Healthcare.
Senate voting record against public education reform.
Senate Voting Record 90% with GW bush.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 12:44 pm

I think Obama was quoting Lincoln when he said that…

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 12:51 pm

First let me apologize for any grammatical errors.
I am recently became an American Citizen and I am still learning the English language.
My mother use to say:
“The worse blind is the one which does not want to see”.
The sad thing about all this situation (Presidential Elections 2008) is that…after all is done… (Obama wins)…people are gone say: What happened? I was so sure!
He sounded so good!
To good to be true!
This is what I have to say…To much talk…Who is him? Do you really know Obama? Two years in the Senate…campaigning…that’s all!
Promises…He says what people want to hear!
We all gone pay a very high price for this big mistake we (you) are getting yourselves in…
Open your eyes people!
Study the situations…get informed…Don’t believe in promises!
Look at the person! Their precedent…
Don’t you know that “were there’s smoke there’s fire?”
We should be more prudent with our choices…
We leave in a very dangerous world…very dangerous…
Look at the history of this world!
We are all living in a “lalala” world, not taking in consideration that bad people are out there, and they are planning right now, as we speak, to kill us!
Even if it takes 100 years…They will succeed!
And do you want to know why!
God bless you all!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

Marcia makes the points! McCain can run (pun intended) but he can't hide. He is not only a dishonest, desperate, incorrigible, old foul-mouthed womanizer he is at the moment America's number one joke (embarrassment).

When he loses this race just watch what happens to Sarah – I'll bet she will wish she had never heard of John McCain. After he is through with her Alaska may not want her either! She may just have to out and field dress moose for a living.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:17 pm

As a non-American I find it quite frightening that your politicians squabble like children instead of appealing to the voters via policies. Palin's pick for instance is clearly aimed at getting idiots to vote. I despised Margaret Thatcher for her policies but I have to admit, her policies were thought-through. In addition, I knew that she had the best interests of Britain at heart, as did I. We just disagreed fundamentally on how to get Britain to a better place.
Palin and McCain seem to want power for its own sake. What do they want to achieve with that power?

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:27 pm

Well janeschneeman, I'm a natural born U.S. citizen and I speak English as a first language. Your mother was right. The worst kind of blind are Republicans who are blind to the fact that McCain is not the person he says he is. You say where there's smoke, there's fire. Well, there's plenty of smoke in John McCain's background(Keating5 scandal)! People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That's an old saying in the English language. John McCain lives in a glass house(or should I say houses?). He's a desperate old coot that has started throwing stones.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:32 pm

He's been running for president for two years, or more, how the fuck! you don't know who Obama is?
You either work for the Mcsame campaign , or ur an Idiot. Either one makes you a DICK!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:44 pm

You must not be paying attention. They want power to bring about the end of days.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:44 pm

Your comment could just as easily apply to Sarah Palin and John McCain. What do you know about them? What have they done that makes them so much better a choice than Barack Obama and Joe Biden? They have been spewing nothing but hate and anger. They have not put forth a solid plan for what they want to do to guide America out of this financial crises. The only plans that McCain has articulated are cutting taxes to the wealthy and taxing health care benefits of the poor and middle class. How is that going to help? He also wants to dig for more oil. Well, no oil will be produced for another 7 to 10 years. How is that going to help right now? Palin lacks the intellectual capacity to hold the office of vice president or president. She can barely string a sentence together when asked a basic question about something she herself said “I have foreign policy experience because of how close Russia is to Alaska.” That is pathetic. The audacity to accuse Obama of lack of experience from her is beyond all things rational. Her experience as the mayor of a town of 5,000 does not qualify her to be vice president or president. The mayor of my city has a constituency of millions, but he is an idiot. I would never vote for him to be president or vice president…and he is a democrat. McCain is an angry, rude, cantancerous old man who needs to retire, go on long vacations and spend his wife's money. Palin needs to return to Wasilla and tend to her rapidly growing family. Perhaps she can demonstrate some leadership skills that she can use to raise her children. They are crying out for her. The phrase should not be “country first” it should be “family first”. She had failed miserably in that regard.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:45 pm

What about Obama receiving the highest amount of money in his short time in the Senate from Fannie Mae and Barney Frank who said Freddie and Fannie are ok. Where were you when McCain warned the senate about Fannie and Freddie and the Democrats didn't want to hear it. Why won't Obama let us see any records from Columbia and who paid for his education.Please give me a break. For the few years Obama has been in politics his hands are so dirty. He's a left wing radical and very scarey

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:53 pm

let's see in 2 years when all of you are crying that you are sorry you voted for Obama. Have your laughs now because if Obama gets elected it will surely be a sad day in America. But this is
America and unfortunately we the worse is yet to come – Obama. If you think he's your salvation, look again. He will not deliver anything promised except socialism, higher taxes and big government.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 1:54 pm


You should try reading more, it' will help your writing. Honestly, I don't believe you are from another country. I think you’re a Republican who lacks writing skills to match your undeveloped reading skills. Case in point, if you would pick up a newspaper, you would understand that Obama was a State Senator before coming to Washington. He (Obama) has been in the game for over 10 years. Nevertheless, good shot at trying to pass yourself off as a foreigner to mask your underdeveloped writing skills. You should be siding with Obama to support our public education system. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Reframe from posting comments until you have educated yourself on the issue under discussion, or post question where someone can assist you with factual information.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:13 pm

the economy is still a mess and mccain's camp would rather ignore it and talk about stupid things even gossip girls wouldn't bother touching.

and that lying faker we call palin. can she crawl back into the hole she came out of? her vile smears and lies make me feel so dirty I need to go take a shower.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:15 pm

If John Glenn is somehow unqualified to introduce Barack Obama at a democratic political rally because of his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal, what does that say about John McCain's qualifications to be president? I think the point of Obama's documercial is that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. It is John McCain's backstroke through the gutter that is the problem. Had he stuck to the issues facing the American people, McCain could have kept that little story buried where it was. Raising the issue of Obama's tangential association with someone who was involved in arguably dispicable acts when Obama was 8 years old merits a definitive response.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:17 pm

From McCain's mouth to our ears:

“Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it.”

[Senator McCain during The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

I'm thrilled, I think andything that is true throughout McCains career is definitely fair game. Keep it up strong, hard and accurate is the way to kill them.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:32 pm

Marv, It's “refrain” from posting comments…………………

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:37 pm

Additionally, McCain signed a propaganda confession that was derogatory to the USA, while a POW. He was not a hero. AS always, he tried to use his father's name and position with the Viet Cong. Putting himself first as he has always done. There were many, many, POWs tortured and still refused to give any information or sign propaganda statements. John McCain was not one of them. Everyone should read the Rolling Stone online article on the make believe maverick.

Also, the only person who witnessed his supposed torture was himself. He's already been caught in one lie on that front.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:40 pm

My friend (to borrow the most tired of McCain's phrases), what on Earth does it matter who paid for someone's education? Who do you THINK paid for it, Osama Bin Laden? Why can't you right wing nut jobs get off trying to portray B. Obama as something he's not. You people are really amazing. All the misfortune, neglect and trouble plaguing your fellow citizens and all you want to harp on is who paid for Obama's education? WTF??????????????? Better start getting used to calling him “Sir”. Or will you be one of those disrespectful, anti-USA crybabies who has a bumper sticker telling everyone who YOUR president is? Later dude

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:42 pm

McCain is a liar and unworthy to serve as President of the United States. He is a mentally unstable, underachiever who is hellbent on reaching the presidency because then he would finally, be able to surpass his father and grandfather's success (both five star generals). McCain has led us to believe that he was some hero when he was captured. Truth is, he signed a confession which put the USA in a bad light. He also attempted to use his family's name and connections to get better treatment when imprisoned, just as he had, and has, done all of his life. There were many POWs tortured who never considered signing propaganda generated confessions. Can you imagine where Obama's campaign would be, had he signed anything demouncing America? Rolling Stone did an article that is very inclusive and factual about the real McCain. All American's should read this.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:51 pm

janeschneeman, a little history is in order here. Before Senator Obama became a US Senator, he was an Illinois State Senator for almost 10 years. Please not this: there are more people in Senator Obama's Illinois senate district than there are in the entire state of Alask, Sarah Palin's state. You said we should look at the man and see what he's done? He worked on the streets of Chicago trying to lift up and help the jobless and the homeless. He eventually discovered that he could do a better job for them as a lawyer so he took oput student loans and got into Harvard Law School. He graduated near the top of his class (McCain graduated at the bottom). He was so good that he was offered a prestifous position at a New York law firm. So what did he do? He said “thanks but no thanks” and went back to the streets of Chicago, rolled up his sleeves and picked up where he left off, working on behalf of the homeless and the jobless. This is a man that has you and me in his heart. Unlike John McCain,m who just wants to be President.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 2:54 pm

To aneschneeman,
Obviously you are only believing what you hearm abd have apprently chosen to be dumb and blind, too You have not studied.. You need to have the good sense to research before you make statements you assume to be true. Obama had several years in the Illinois State Senate prior to coming to the U.S. Senate. He has drafted and worked on legislaiton to aide our veterans who were paying for meals and telephone calls home while in VA Hospitals. There are numerous who can tell you how Barack Obama worked hard and diligently to better their lives when there was no cameras on him. He worked several years in the trenches of less fortunate neighborhoods. McCain on the other hand has lived a life of privilege and only chosen to support the rich, large companies and his cronies. He is a mean-spirited spoiled brat who never put either wife, family, nor country before his own greed and ambition. He has an uncontrollable temper and should never be in charge of anything or anyone. Additionally, he should be labled a traitor for what he did while a POW.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

I'm glad Obama won't back down to the typical Republican smear tactics. The current financial crisis is a DIRECT reflection of McCain's economic policies. He's always been a guy who has skated by (just like Bush). He got into the Naval Academy because his grandfather and father were Admirals – and finished 5th from the bottom in his class. He destroyed 4 American planes in training and while in service. He ditched his handicapped wife and family for a hot young blonde. He was the worst of the Keating 5 with all the money, free flights and his wife's joint investments with Keating. And his choice of the Great Alaskan Bimbo is one of a myriad of choices which proves his inability to make smart decisions.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:11 pm

Irish, I couldnt agree with u more, now is the time to engage McCain with the Keaton 5 issue during the date and watch him lose control of his temper. while mccain is playing checker Barack is playing chess.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:20 pm

We need to know who Obama really is and what he has done in the past. The church he went to is bad enough look at what he would listen to and agree to and what has this taught his children. His wife just now proud of America is that because of what she was taught or the church or both. I do not find that Obama has what it takes to be president needs more knowledge just not ready to take control and get us out of the trouble we are in. I got a give to me from Obama the other day and here is how I feel and what I had to say. I do not want you for president and I wold not vote for you to be a dog catcher.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

Just so they get their name in lights. They won't have any power, really, for the actual power will be in the hands of those who have been running the country for the past 8 years while Bush was the puppet. It would really be a continuation of that same agenda — just new puppets.

kenneth thompson
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

McCain is just as bad as the current administration, he may have started with better intentions, but he just can't become president without embracing the wrong headed general republican agenda that has us in this host of crisises.
McCain loses both ways. Republican agenda must stop!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

rita, Maybe you should look at Palin's husband. He is a member of the Ak independence party- they want to seceed from the union. that is treason- he isn't even proud of his country- he doe not want to be part of it. As for her church– I would not throw stones- jews deserve punishment, god wants war in iraq?
McCain's own wife was convicted of drug charges let alone his other associations.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:31 pm

That was a stupid post. and believe me, people with even the lowest proficiency level in English would not make the errors you have made, confusing the cases for your personal pronouns and using “were” instead of “where”. And “we all gone pay a high price…?” Try another excuse my friend.

After all that, your post makes no sense in any language.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

Come on! One recent comment writer wrote, “We need to know who Obama really is and what he has done in the past.” People who are uninformed with regard to Obama's past haven't been reading the newspaper,s reading the two books he wrote long before this election, or following the news closely. In a front page expose merely a week ago, The New York Times delineated in detail Obama's number and quality of his superficial contacts with Ayers providing dates, names of meetings, names of others in attendance at these meetings. To have these issues raised now is ludicrous. Obama has been front and center for over 22 months. If one doesn't like Obama, that's fair, but to claim we don't know enough about the man is short of brain dead. I am a 63 years old, lifelong Republican and former Goldwater girl in my youth. I voted for, campaigned for and donated to McCain's 2000 race for the White House. I feel Obama has been thoroughly vetted. A vote for the current incarnation of John McCain and his very unprepared sidekick is a vote for the past and for the dangerous path we have been on for the last 8 years. If McCain wishes to play hardball, it is obvious to me the Democrats do not intend to take it lying down as they did during the Kerry campaign. Republican, be prepared each negative onslaught will be greeted in kind. We have far more serious issues facing us than these smears.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

Thank you for telling him. There's no one around to vouch for a lot of his tall tales anyway, so his fish just keeps getting bigger. I don't believe a word of the story he cooked up. The crap about declining an offer of early release to be in solidarity with his buddies…


Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:38 pm

you could not be more correct in every respect that you reference.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:40 pm

Rita, one of the bad things about print is that you cannot discern tone of voice. I want you to know that if I were speaking to you, my tone would be gentle. If you voted for President Bush in the last two elections and think you did the right thing, Obama is not your candidate and I would not want to argue that he should be. But if you voted for President Bush and wish you had not, you need to ask yourself whether you are focusing on the right things in casting your vote. (His wife just now proud of America? Do you honestly believe that? And if so, why?)

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

And you right wing fascists are as dumb as you are “scarey”! Critical-thinking disabled.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:47 pm

Amen Jeff!

Jim Speiser
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:47 pm

Excuse me? McCain was cleared by the Senate Ethics Panel? I guess, if you call being rebuked as having poor judgement “cleared.” Obama, on the other hand, has had nothing to be cleared of, unless there's a federal statute against living in the same neighborhood as someone who was NOT convicted of terrorism charges 40 years earlier…

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:50 pm

“McCain has led us to believe that he was some hero when he was captured. Truth is, he signed a confession which put the USA in a bad light. He also attempted to use his family's name and connections to get better treatment when imprisoned, just as he had, and has, done all of his life. There were many POWs tortured who never considered signing propaganda generated confessions. “

Is this the start of Hanoi Hilton Guests for Truth?

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 3:54 pm

You obviously can't read well. There is more than enough information on the news and in literature. I take it that you are probably not qualified to vote. You should really work on your grammar as run on sentences with poor punctuation are simply not that attractive. Most third graders can do a better job than you have. Before you comment negatively on anyone, make sure that you don't expose your own ignorance in the process. Further, you should proofread what you wrote -slowly. Your crude construction of sentences is an abysmal testimony of what is wrong with our educational system. By the way, Obama has accumulated infinitely more knowledge than McCain, who was near the bottom of his military school class and barely graduated. Obama is an Ivy League scholar/academic. I personally have a Masters degree. I can tell that you don't have much education due to your grammatical ineptitude. Therefore, if there is anyone who doesn’t know enough, its is you. Your support for the decrepit Mr McCain (who cheated on his first wife) bears this out nicely.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 4:04 pm

Enough of GOP and…if GOP was my wife i would have left her long time ago…..Grow up people , 8 years are more than just enough….enough s enough

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

well said, i keep saying , enough of that old GOP ….i just can not beleive that they have the courage to talk again about doing thngs for American people afteralmost 8 years of lies, shame and corruption…please GOP leave us alonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnne

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

One would have to be blind and deaf to believe that you are a new American citizen who is still learning the English language. Fraud is not the right line of work for you.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 4:34 pm

This utterly obscene campaign on the part of McCain and Palin and their Machiavellian puppeteer Rove, has reached a new low. They are disrespectful to Americans during a time of such pain, uncertainty and distress. He is a disgrace to all of us Americans that think, read, investigate and fact check such lies.

These are desperate tactics from a desperate and bitter old man and a now dying campaign. He is no “maverick” and certainly no hero. This dimwitted sidekick Palin embodies all of the things that American women have fought against for 40 years: bigotry, ignorance, violence, anti-reproductive rights and superficiality. We do not choose our leaders based on what lies between the legs but what is contained in the mind and heart, your shameful political move was wasted on me and on all of my female (and male!) friends.

I cannot even watch them speak, I simply change the channel or turn off the TV.

Russell Shoebotham
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

I am very pleased that Obama has brought up Charles Keating. His restraintnin this campaign is admirable, but if McCain and Palin insist on the dirty tactics that they have decided to use then Obama's response is appropriate. And talking about McCain's relationship with the banker Keating is highly appropraie in today's financial meltdown.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

The size of government has grown exponentially under George W. Bush. In less than eight years, the national debt has grown from $6 trillion (over a 263 year period) to $10.2 (that is $4.2 trillion in less than 8 years). That is before the $850 billion Wallstreet bailout ($700 billion bailout and $150 billion in new pork). When Bush came into office there was a buget surplus. Now, the deficit is over $500 billion, again, before accounting for the bailout.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 5:15 pm

McCain has seemed like a doddering old man throughout this campaign. Only the boomlet caused by Palin, before the country fully realized what an embarrassing airhead she is, gave the McCain campaign ANY energy at all. It's obvious that voters are way too terrified to entrust the economy to either an old man who seems like a hapless, erratic gambler, OR a young woman with as much economic expertise as one could rightly expect of a hockey mom in lipstick. I'm 65, and I've never seen a Republican ticket in my life that was anything like as ludicrous in both slots as this one. Sure, W was a joke, but Cheney, for all his evil and incompetence in Iraq, at least LOOKED nefariously competent and scary during the two W campaigns, never ridiculous. Now BOTH candidates are the constant butts of scathing humor all over the country.

Sharon Johnson
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 5:24 pm

It obvious that the people in this country are more interested in party politics instead of truth. The Keating 5 that is being brought up the investigator was on the Media Channels today to tell everyone that McCain was found not guilty and should not have even been put in with the group. He did not even break ethics laws. This is something that Obama is trying to deflect and put people off balance and not look at him more closely. Do you know that Obama has told Planned Parenthood the first thing he will do is sign “FREEDOM OF CHOICE” which means every law ie: partial birth abortion, parental notification, born alive infant protection act. Any state or federal law will be wiped out with the stroke of his pen. Abortions for everyone. LOOK IT UP. Another thing how about GLOBAL POVERTY ACT. Every heard of it. Look it up and see what this means for America.

So no we do not know anything about this man. I am a registered Democrat and I never imagined. But the one thing that really bothers me is his District in Chicago and what happened while state senator. You say you know him. My question to you is WHAT IS HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT? WHAT HAS HE DONE CAN YOU NAME ONE? WELL IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WATCH THE VIDEO AND SEE IF THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT


Show Me
Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

Harry Truman, I think… but not an exact quote

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 6:06 pm

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Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 6:41 pm

Please, get over the patriotic diatribe. I personally haven't felt too proud of my country for the last eight years. That does not mean that I don't love it, it only menas that I disagree with all of the terrible events – greed, unjust war, tax cuts for the rich, erosion of civil rights, prejudice against gays, constant rants from extreme right and the extreme left on the radio as well as in TV, the list goes on and on. So that is a nonissue. the fact is that McCain has not offered one single policy that is any different from the Bush policies. In fact, the 700 billion bailout that he supported could have been his first opportunity to show his Maverick style by opposing it. Not only did he backed it but he also backed the added 140 billion dollars of pork that his own party injected on the original plan in order to pass the bill the second time around. McCain had the chance to live up to his campaign promise to cut the pork and he flip flops and goes ahead endorsing this pork ladden bill. He should be ashamed!!

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 7:29 pm

Um excuse me and that is your defense to Mccains Keating 5 issue, and Obama was 8 when Ayers supposely bombed something, the problem with Mccain Keating issue is that his high up friends got him off in the Keating Scandal and he hasnt learned his lesson because he did the exact same deregulation crap the ended up with the Wall Street collapse, so your excuse is simple to say the least.

My challenge to you is go do your research on Palin and her issues because a vote for Mccain as president is the same as voting for Palin as president because McCains actions shows his health is not good.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 7:30 pm

MCCAIN PALIN are really showing the American people what they would be like in the White House! SCARY !! These two would listen to no one. Palin is an agressive, uneducated ,egotisical , religious fanatic, without the brains to realize that she is on a dangerous journey, one that the American people, and the rest of the world do not need to accompany her on ! The right wing agenda she subcribes to , is very reminiscent of a man called ADOLPH . We all know what happened to Germany and it's surrounding neighbors. Palin's judgement , and her steamrolling , extremist views , have NO place on the American landscape. Vote for MCCAIN PALIN at your peril.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

Go you know anything about Palins religion, can you explain why her pastor wants to cast away witches, there is a video going aroung with him praying over her casting away witches.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 7:36 pm

Angie you need to repost your comment as much as possible. You make an excellent point, but I have come to realize some people take pride in being ignorant.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 8:05 pm


Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

Grow a brain please.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 8:54 pm

Anyone still thinking of voting McCain, cure that urge forever by reading the extensive article “Make-Believe Maverick” by Tim Dickinson. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/mak…
Even if you only accept a small part of this investigative report, after this you will understand the duplicitous and mischievous construct of John McCain's campaign.
To all the Republicans out there, surely you cannot aspire to let this ticket reach the White House, it would be cause for reckless endangerment of your fellow citizens to facilitate such an outcome. Surely those who are proud of the values and traditions of this badly Bush/Cheney battered party cannot further discredit their heritage with the spectacle offered. It is sad the campaign has focused to theatrics versus content, it is McCain's choreography. Win or loose this election it will get worse in the hope that the truth about his past remains out of the public eye.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:19 pm

These are typical Republican smear tactics. Anything to change the subject and run away from what their failed ideological policies have done to this country.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 10:37 pm

As much as I agree with your basic point… Hitler defense means you lose.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:34 pm

Palin is saying that Obama is a terrorist because he served on the board of an educational reform group that included a 1960s radical who is now a college professor. Yet her husband, until very recently, was a member of the Alaska Independence Party whose founder and followers expressed extreme hatred for the U.S. and advocated secession. Just a couple of quotes from Joe Vogler: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government and I won't be buried under their damn flag.” Todd Palin has yet to say one single word to the press. I guess the McCain campaign is afraid he might voice some of his extremist views. Either that or his wife doesn't let him talk. She looks like she wears the pants in that family anyway.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:50 pm

Okay. I checked the video. Rezko went to jail for what he did and the investigation said Obama was not involved or had knowledge of any of what Rezko did. GWB and Ken Lay were buddy buddies and Enron robbed the state of California and the country of billions. So I guess you think GWB should have gone to jail with Kenny Boy because they were good friends and Lay donated money to GWB's campaign. If this is your reason for voting McCain, you were never much of a democrat. If you have an issue with abortion, I suggest you don't get one. You might also want to take a class in American government, too.

Comment posted October 6, 2008 @ 11:56 pm

He was the only POW who did not receive his promotions while in captivity. All the others were promoted on schedule. He should have gotten at least one, if not two promotions while a POW. A court martial was considered but was dropped because the military wanted to bury it under the rug, didn't want the controversy and wanted all the POWs treated the same when they got home. Most Vietnam Veterans groups oppose McCain. They have a nickname for him, songbird. Look it up.

Comment posted October 7, 2008 @ 12:16 am

No matter why you think Obama is not worthy to be even a DOG-CATCHER, you speak so negatively about a man who:

worked his way through an Ivy League school with only merit–NOT race-based–scholarships and heavy loans;

who studied Constitutional Law for a decade;

who was active in community organizing and other means to improve life for the mostly poor people around his area and continued those goals as a leader;

who read the Intelligence report BEFORE passing the judgment that the available information and our military experts demanded, AGAINST the Iraq War-enabling legislation;

who has supported the troops in nearly every piece of legislation they needed, while McCain has consistently voted against their needs, even though he didn't believe in that war;

whose policies have been advocated by most experts and are dredited as being exactly what is needed to fix the economy, to keep this disaster from happening again, and even–had the Republicans permitted such changes–to have prevented or severely minimized our current economic crisis.

I thought you might simply be unaware of how black churches encourage pride in their culture, stoke activism in politics to improve race and culture issues in our nation, and work in the community to make it a more positive and enabling environment.

That maybe you didn't know that patriotism requires admitting what a nation has done wrong as well as supporting its good acts.

That perhaps you hadn't yet learned that Obama wasn't present for his pastor's rants that were seen as over the line, nor did he espouse or teach any violence, hatred, or race-based aggrandizement.

That you might simply not be aware that Obama's “relationship” with a criminal was the relationship of a home buyer to a dealer who was not known to him beorehand and gave him NO special price, and that the terrorist who is supposedly Obama's friend was merely a neighbor who served–alongside many others–in organizations Obama worked with in getting help to poor children and school programs.

Then, I read your last line and realized you simply can't stand a black man to have any degree of power, not even over the fate of stray dogs, let alone over yourself. Now, I hope you're just a racist with no intention of educating yourself about the untruth of things that make you feel vindicated in letting your bigotry keep you from even considering Obama's qualifications.

THIS is the ONLY reason any racism cards are pulled by any Obama supporters–because people like you dismiss Obama's extensive and highly relevant experience, education, and governing and policy successes WITHOUT EVEN LEARNING ABOUT THEM, and refuse to bother looking into this history while at the same time believing every scandalous and repeatedly-proven-false email or news report about nonexistent dangerous elements of his past.

Maybe you don't care enough about our nation enough to take the few moments to review Obama's record, how consistently he has been proven right in his policy choices and stances, how his advocacy of the very plans deemed best able to dig us out of our hole and prevent it from happening again has been constant and highly supported by experts.

Maybe you are so full of hatred and bigotry–or just so unfamiliar with the English language–that you believe it's unpatriotic of a black woman to say that seeing a strong, capable, and qualified black man running for president–her husband–made her VERY PROUD of America for the FIRST TIME IN HER ADULT LIFE.

Maybe none of that's any excuse, because a GOOD CITIZEN of a democratic republic would base their vote not on their own race-based discomfort or refusal to challenge an innate sense of superiority or anything else that is mere distraction–a PATRIOT would base his or her vote and assessment of candidate qualifications on facts, on candidate policy and judgment and record, on the important issues and candidates' intentions regarding them, and most of all, on the needs of our nation.

And what democracy would want, as a citizen with voting rights, somebody who lets prejudice and rumor decide their vote without bothering to learn the truth about the candidate they disparage?

Comment posted October 7, 2008 @ 5:21 am

Actually, all you have done is prove that you are a liar and have no idea how our government works. Let me help. Even after 8 years of your idiot hero W, the president still can't “wipe out” any state laws with his pen or anything else.

Comment posted October 7, 2008 @ 5:32 am

What did McCain lealrn form the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings.
The same push to deregulate has cost us $700 billion so far in this ruination.
McCain did not learn anything important form that scandal that al ost cost him everything.
I think that it should have cost him everything.

Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 3:03 pm

Speaking of Barack Obama: LONG LIVE EMPEROR OBAMA!

Obama is a racial-minority individual and does not like racism:

There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.

What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?

It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.

Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)
“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.

Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

Speaking of Barack Obama: LONG LIVE EMPEROR OBAMA!

Obama is a racial-minority individual and does not like racism:

There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.

What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?

It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.

Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)
“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.

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