Harkin threatens to oppose electric vehicles bill if ethanol provisions aren’t added

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Just get it done Harkin. The dems have been missing the spirit of urgency for the last two years, trying to appease the enemy. It is time for the dems to look to Churchill for leadership, Chamberlain has failed to appease the monsters.

Excuse me, the republicans and not the enemy, they just declared war on President Obama. Actually, they are US representatives who have failed to follow the principles of the founders and betrayed the trust of the american people and would rather see their constituents swim in muck than drain the swamp.

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This is a great post and makes me think of where I can fit in. I do a little bit of everything mentioned here and I guess I have to find my competitive advantage.

thank you

So the Senator from the state with the highest production of corn wants more corn based fuels in commuter vehicles.

http://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/iowa.pdf

Maybe this decision should be based on science instead of politics. Unfortunately, no one cares about science when it comes to climate change.

Whats amusing is to farm all that corn, you need very large diesel tractors. Not to mention transportation of the corn, and the corn based fuel. The infrastructure is already in place for electric cars, and producing the electricity at a large plant produces something like two orders of magnitude less CO2 per mile driven than an internal combustion engine running on gasoline. I’m sure any advantage to corn is outweighed by the fossil fuels burned in its production.

“Taking into account the energy required to grow the corn and convert it into ethanol, they determined that burning the biofuel as a gasoline additive actually results in a net energy loss of 65 percent.”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050329132436.htm

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[...] Harkin threatens to oppose electric vehicles bill if ethanol provisions aren’t added “Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), in a floor speech today, called for expanding electric and natural gas vehicles legislation slated to come up for a procedural vote during the lame-duck session to encourage the use of ethanol. While he said he would vote for cloture on the bill, he warned that he would oppose the bill on a final vote if provisions to encourage biofuels are not added.” [...]

I wanted to make a quick comment regarding that last article you linked to (from ScienceDaily). The main researcher on that study is Dr. Tad Patzek. Dr. Patzek has done some consulting work for both Chevron and Shell. This is far from an independent study. I fully agree that this decision should be based on science, but I really believe it should be based on GOOD science.

I wanted to make a quick comment regarding that last article you linked to (from ScienceDaily). The main researcher on that study is Dr. Tad Patzek. Dr. Patzek has done some consulting work for both Chevron and Shell. This is far from an independent study. I fully agree that this decision should be based on science, but I really believe it should be based on GOOD science.

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It is very important to research your sources. I agree. But you can’t say that just because he worked as a consultant for both Shell and Chevron that his science is bad. He goes on in that article to say that doubling the mileage of cars is a will cut petroleum consumption. He also advocates solar, though it’s relatively immaturity does not make it feasible yet on the large scale.

My overall point is that Senator Harkin does not have what’s best for humanity in his mind when he claims we need more ethanol, just whats best for Iowa, or, it could be said, what’s best for his re-election.

It is very important to research your sources. I agree. But you can’t say that just because he worked as a consultant for both Shell and Chevron that his science is bad. He goes on in that article to say that doubling the mileage of cars is a will cut petroleum consumption. He also advocates solar, though it’s relatively immaturity does not make it feasible yet on the large scale.

My overall point is that Senator Harkin does not have what’s best for humanity in his mind when he claims we need more ethanol, just whats best for Iowa, or, it could be said, what’s best for his re-election.

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[...] Senator Harkin (D-Iowa) threatened to oppose electric vehicles if his colleagues don’t support biofuel policies. Politics at its [...]

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