Elderly voters the biggest push behind the GOP wave

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Monday, November 08, 2010 at 9:00 am

The election post-mortems keep rolling in. Politico’s Byron Tau’s report on the remarkable shift in voting patterns among America’s oldest voters goes a long way to explain why last week’s contest became such a rout for Republicans. Voters over 65, he writes, favored Republicans by a 21-point margin after breaking narrowly for Democrats in 2006, and in some key races the margin was even more lopsided:

In New Hampshire, for instance, seniors backed GOP Senate candidate Kelly Ayotte over her Democratic challenger by 33 points. In the narrow Illinois Senate contest, Republican Mark Kirk won older voters by 22 points. And In Delaware, they were the only age group to back tea party favorite Christine O’Donnell, by an 11-point margin.

“I’ve been saying since August 2009, that there was a tsunami — in this case a senior citizen tsunami — headed towards Capitol Hill,” said Jim Martin, chairman of the 60 Plus Association, a conservative campaign group targeted toward older voters. “That tsunami came ashore.”

The 60 Plus Association, it should be noted, played a key role, along with groups like American Crossroads, in drumming up fears among the elderly about the health care reform bill’s efforts to fight the rising cost of Medicare — a cause that Republicans had long championed but now found opportune to decry. Billing itself a conservative alternative to the AARP, the 60 Plus Association served in many ways as an extension of the American Crossroads-led network of shadow GOP organizations devoted to electing Republicans last election cycle. Carl Forti, a veteran Republican operative and the political director of American Crossroads, also handled the PR and media profile of the 60 Plus group, which spent nearly $6 million dollars in independent expenditures attacking House Democrats who voted for health care reform.

Combine the swing among seniors with the fact that young people largely stayed home from the polls last Tuesday, and the landslide seem less like a shift in the national opinion and more like the product of simple demographic mathematics. Here’s a voter turnout graph Matt Yglesias provided last week, which speaks to this point:

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Gogo
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:37 pm

Let's do it again in 2012!


Guamster
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:38 pm

These are the same people who are worried about the size of the federal debt but become tone deaf when any discussion regarding Medicare or Social Security are brought into the mix. Extrapolate this mentality to boomers and one quickly begins to see why this country is screwed.


Maddy1001maddy1001
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:39 pm

I'm in this demographic (over 60), but I haven't lost enough of my marbles yet to vote for the Repub. I think senility is a bigger problem than we knew – witness the election!


Henryi2
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:45 pm

The good news is, we the youth only have to wait it out a few more years. They are getting their last hurrah to be certain, but they have already lost whether they like it or not. Diversity is coming, and fear will no longer win once their numbers have dwindled. I feel sorry that they are being used by the GOP propaganda machine but the stark reality is that the GOP is running out of subjects to scare. Hang in their youth! 20 more years and they will all be gone.


amerrealist
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:50 pm

The Rep. have always relied on dumb Dems voting against their best interests. Wait until they bring up scaling back SS & Medicare, they'll act like they never heard of these positions! They'll be gone in a couple of voting cycles & then we can straighten out the country!


Islandfinder44
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:53 pm

Just goes to show that boomers can be as stupid as the rest of us.


Richards Daily Mail
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:57 pm

Wait until those seniors find out they cast their votes for those who want to take away their social security and their medicare. They'll wonder what the heck they were thinking.
That's exactly what the republicans were trying to do before 2008 and lost because of it. Then, since they didn't see EVERYTHING fixed in two years, they voted the other way. Far too pragmatic, and to be honest, shortsighted and uninformed.


Randster
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:58 pm

You have to admire the Republicans for being able to consistently get their base (the ignorant and stupid) to vote against their own best interest. It's interesting that they have managed to get the over 60 vote. The older folks should know better.


ExPat Dreams
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:00 pm

This makes sense. The elderly are generally easier to scare and confuse. Plus, a lot of them probably still can't believe their country would elect a black president.


Jayson
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:12 pm

The 65+ group will always come out and vote because being retired and most of them not having to hold a job they have far more free time on their hands.


micahel
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:16 pm

social security, medicare, and defense make up 75% of the national budget.

teabagger old farts need to be put to sleep…

good kitty


moono
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:18 pm

When the ballot can be cast over the internet, the youth will make the work a better place for the future…

not the now


Justice
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

@micahel can you say that 50 years from now when you're in a home and people are voting to take your benefits?


Stratrider
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:20 pm

age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom, esp. in America. Watch these older idiots squeal when the emboldened corporate fascist GOP start proposing privatizing Social Security. It's hard to believe it's hard to believe it's the same country that fought Hitler and send a man to the Moon. What a bunch of morons!


Danamo
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

The election, and the comments here, demonstrates the foolishness of youth and the wisdom of old age. The elderly have lived through the first Great Depression, World Wars, and have learned from the lessons of their history. The youth are naive, idealistic, impractical, and impetuous.


Coco
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

Who said they were anything but?


Dolmance
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

The only light at the end of the tunnel for American politics and her future is that this, in many ways the worst generation, are on their way out.


Chamizal
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

The good news is when medicare runs out of money in 5 to 6 years they will not as if you are a Democrat or Republician. We will al be sitting on the same bench.


chuck
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

You mean like the way Obama, Pelosi, and Reid straightened things out?


Stratrider
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

“Just goes to show that boomers can be as stupid as the rest of us. “

–I love it! What a beautiful piece of self-reflection. :))


Endgreed
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

I am oh so weary of politics. We need to ban meaningless political scare ads and make people think! Thanks for your horrible decision, supreme court! Now we can spend the next several decades arguing about abortion and gay marriage as our schools and infrastructure collapse around us. Boo to the party of meaningless moral diatribes…


R. G. Price
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:23 pm

Its a huge irony that one of America's most progressive policies, Medicare, has led to the destruction of the progressive movement for decades. Basically what happened is that once the elderly got Medicare, they no longer voted for anything progressive, because they are naturally conservative, and once they got themselves taken care of, they now vote against all other progressive policies.

We would have had full universal health care by the end of the 70s if we had never passed Medicare, because then the elderly would have been fighting for it too. Once they got their though, they stopped supporting health care reform for anyone else,and now see any attempts on behalf of the rest of the nation to improve health care for the rest of us as a threat to their own benefits.

The elderly want the young and the poor to pay for their care, but they want to make sure that the young the the poor have none of their own so they won't have to wait in line behind them.

Medicare is the biggest mistake the Democrats ever made. If we hadn't passed that, the progressive arm of the party would have been able to push for a more inclusive universal health care system, and would have been able to avoid the creation of generational politics, with the elderly now solidly opposed to anything that benefits anyone else other than themselves.

Socialism for the old, breadlines for the rest…


Omerto
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:23 pm

Except no one is taking away their benefits. I am voting to take away my own. Their delusional, too much time on their handsm watching Fox and getting all spun up. U know it I know it.


Lolly
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:25 pm

Teabagger will have no remorse at hangin grandma out to dry. At least the neocons want grandma fat dumb and happy


Mary
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:25 pm

Who is scaring who? Republicans want to take away social security? Also, I like the ageism. smh.

Instead of being myopic about what these elections were all about try looking at reality. This was a rejection against the policies of Obama and the leftward turn he wanted to engineer.

Oh wait I guess you all are just in denial. Easy to blame it on your phobia's than look at reality.


Joeandterry2000
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:26 pm

Real dumb seniors. All we did was work, fight for our country, raise a family, pay our taxes, etc. What the F*** did any of you jerk wads ever do. NOTHING. The only ones trying to scare us are liberals. Social Security and Medicare are here to stay and we know that and so do you.


Dwhitley
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

I would like to point out that this chart merely displays the fact that fewer “under 30″ voters exercised their right to vote in 2010, than in 2008, while the opposite happened for the “over 60″ crowd.

If this data points to a “stupid” group, it would be the group that failed to cast a vote of any kind, which would be the younger of the two. It is not only not surprising, it is in fact concurrent with traditional data, that the younger demographic is all but completely disengaged in non-presidential election years. Without all of the hoopla and billions of dollars in advertising that goes along with a presidential election cycle, the younger crowd tends to be the “easily confused” group (as in confused about how much more important and powerful the house and senate control is than the white house), while the older group tends to stay better informed and certainly more involved.

I think that you should all be ashamed and disgusted by your foolish, ill-informed, insensitive remarks about our senior population. If you get a little smarter, you may have the pleasure of being allowed into that group someday. I’m in the unmentioned under 40 group, but smart enough to know that sitting on the couch instead of standing in the voting line is the stupidest thing anyone can do on election day!


Got Wise
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:29 pm

No matter WHO you vote for the government always gets in and we get screwed.


Ejryno
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:31 pm

im 23 and a republican so old people dont worry about these ignorant democrats who have nothing else better to do than to sit her and type all this b.s. mauricio rubio for president 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!


Seeker93023
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:32 pm

I'm a member of this age group, as are a large percentage of the people I know. None of them, and I mean NONE OF THEM, voted for Republicans in any race. Maybe the people mentioned in this article were just always stupid and uninformed. Our biggest problem locally was the younger crowd not getting out to vote at all. Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina could have been knocked down a lot harder than they were had the 18 – 30 year old voters bothered to vote against Republican candidates even if they hadn't been 100% enchanted by the Democratic choices. (Proposition 19 went down because too many of the people who should have been voting for it were too stoned to do so.)

Then again, there's a good chance that this article was written by someone from the GOP noise machine — the same machine that predicted Republicans were going to sweep California this time.


JackUSA123
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:33 pm

hmmm it looks like fear mongering let seniors to swing..and young voters stayed at home all of this led to GOP victory..

it doesnt sound to me that this election represent the whole american people


John
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:34 pm

Actually the numbers are more skewed than the figures presented here–34% of all voters in the last election were over 60. Ironically, half of the Democrats who lost their seats were Blue Dogs who voted against health care reform.

This election was the last hurrah of the elderly, angry white voter. Look for the pendulum to swing back in 2012, when a broader demographic will go to the polls in a presidential election year.


Michael
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:34 pm

You just have to look at the tea-baggers to see this group in action, old, white, and ignorant. I'm tired of the welfare states dragging us down. Leave it to them to continually vote against their own best interests and act as tools for the corporate elite that are selling this country off piece by piece. I got news for you, the Ozzie and Harriet days you dream of, like the jobs we sent overseas, aren't coming back.


Warrior
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:37 pm

Most of the comments I'm reading are symptomatic of the democratic left and they haven't changed since the election. All that needs to be done is blame somebody else and personally attack individuals or groups – never think, never learn from history. If you want socialism, what's going on today in France and Greece? What happened to the people under Josef Stalin in the Soviet Union? The main points of these remarks seem to be “trust the government” and “don't make me think.”


John
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:38 pm

Um, that's Marco, not Mauricio. You're welcome.


Devon Noll
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:41 pm

This article points to two things: our younger voters are ignorant of the importance of using their vote to create the kind of nation that they want, and our elderly citizens are being driven by fear and lies to believe that the Democrats are going to harm them via Social Security or Medicare, when in fact the very opposite is true. Well, ignorance, fear, and lies have won in 2010 and if the next two years will show them what they have wrought for the rest of us, they will be the losers right along with the rest of the country. I wonder how they will feel when their Medicare premium rises and their benefits erode; their Social Security is reduced as money goes to privatizing accounts for younger citizens and the debt to Social Security is not repaid; and how students will feel when student financial aid for college is gone and unemployment benefits are a thing of the past.

This country is about a hurt a whole lot more, and while everyone blames Obama, maybe they should look in the mirror and realize that they could have prevented it by actually being active in the political process and standing up to the bullies of the Tea Party and GOP and FOX. Everyone sat back and assumed that Obama would make it right, but forgot that it was Congress – a GOP led Congress – brought us this insanity. Now they have brought back these crazies, only much worse. Our nation is now on the downward slide to disaster and all the rest of us can do is watch it happen – like watching a slow train wreck, and know that we are only going to be able to help the survivors, if there are any, including these elderly and young.


Rdl114
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:43 pm

As a Baby Boomer about to hit 60 and as Liberal and proud of it as can be… we fought the right wing when it came to their racism in the 60s; we fought them over the genocidal war in Southeast Asia; we raised the alarm about Nixon and his crookedness, double dealing and proto-fascist state; we fought when Reagan gutted the unions and started the downward economic spiral we are caught in even today. The right wing has brought nothing but destruction to the middle class and still wants to. As an address to the young… the battle against the evil empire is NEVER over for they are bent on your economic and spiritual enslavement. This is a great country, but the right wing only wants it to be great for a handful of elites. This go round they succeeded. However, their overall trend is down. Look not just at this election but the last six.

Take a look at the rich states – all liberal except for those with great natural resources. Then take a look at the poor and backward states – all conservative. Which side do you want to be on? The side of progress and sound, environmentally sustainable development, or on the side of backwardness, illiteracy, family dysfunction, gun violence and pollution? Choose.

Vote. You can make a difference.


LTCRET
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

The thing that is killing us is the damned senseless wars. Cut the military by 50%. Those stuipid old Generals can not let the cold war go. The services have their hands out for every untried expensive system they can be talked into by the military industrial conplex. Eisenhower was right beyond his years. We have wars because we can use our new weapons, we have new weapons because the services have never seen a new weapon system. This moronic cycle only kills and cost more that we could ever afford. BTW I am retired Army, You have never seen waste like the military can spend, it will make you sick.


Brad
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:51 pm

I am a BIG fan of right wing crazies criticizing the left for “not thinking for themselves.” Um….the biggest problem that the Left has in terms of getting political traction is that there are more educated people on the Left, and therefore there is more diversity of opinion on Left. The Right's biggest advantage is that most conservative voters are too simple to seek out information on their own and simply adopt whatever opinion is being fed to them by the right-wing media. They are the sheep they so foolishly complain about. They will follow their pied pipers over the edge of a cliff, continuously voting against their own self interests because they have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues.


EconProf
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:52 pm

The results are not due to campaign spending or voter turn out of 65+ voters due to the manipulation of the Republican party. Both parties need to understand it has nothing to do with “campaign strategy” or “demographic results.” It boils down to their performance. We screwed up by focusing 2 years of effort around Health Care Reform. Nothing was focused on the economy and JOBS. Every things was about blaming Bush and the party of NO. I honestly feel we could have controlled congress if we didn't have Pelosi. She is so detached with reality.


Ejryno
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

rdl114 u have no idea what your talking about!! u said all the rich states are liberal? are u kidding me? the exact opposite is true. take a look at michigan for example and just the city of detroit never run by a republican just liberals and we can all see what a crap hole it is!!!!


Ddd
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:55 pm

you are 100 % correct. it sad logic did not prevail in this election.


screwed by SS
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:02 pm

The Dems were not the party that wanted to privatize SS. That was what the worst idiot no not palin but bush wanted. He wanted to put SS in the stock market. Woudn't that have been fun with the worst recession of all times. But his rich buddies would have made a killing. It was the people who got him into office that started the war in the wrong country. He is a war criminal by any definition you choose. Now he has a book and the citizens with their 15 minute memory will make him a great president like they did the demented regan.


LTCRET
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:10 pm

Yes we will get a repub everything, and they can finish the destruction of this country like bush damned near doing. Where is the next country we will attack. You know they are already planning and buying stock in the main companies that will provide our new weapon systems. The drum beat of patriotism has already begun. Remember how in 02-03 if you were against the war you were not supporting the military and were probably against this country. in my life it worked so well in Vietnam, Desert Storm, and the what the hell do you call this one. We are running out of names for stuipid wars.


JT
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:19 pm

Ejryno.

Detroit being a shithole does not disprove the statement, and definitely does not prove that “the exact opposite is true”. In response, I can throw out Seattle and San Fran, both rich tech cities that are brimming with liberals. So we both have examples that support our claims, yet thus far, only anecdotal evidence.

I would suggest a better, more scientific point you could make would be to compare amount of federal tax revenue paid out by each state, and compare it to how much fed funds are taken by the state. Having solid numbers behind you will go a long way in making a point. Right now, your statement looks uninformed, and it appears you are extrapolating a single data point to create an entire graph just because it fits your 'vision'.


JT
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

LOL, the elderly have socialized health care, and they're pissed at the idea of anyone else getting it. The elderly are ignorant, racist, and selfish fucks, and all we can do now is wait for them to die.

Not all elderly people are as misanthropic as the collective, but really, a lot of those people are just evil, and care only for themselves. Wisdom? fucking LOL


Old391
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:55 pm

Jayson must be 30something. I have time on my hands, because the young managers I interview with, as I try to find employment, can't see past my gray hair.


Old391
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 5:58 pm

Michael needs to remember that he too will be an 'old fart' someday. He need not worry though, Obama care has care rationing provisions in it that will ensure he will never need to worry about getting too old.


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Treeline
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 6:35 pm

Man You are so right.Very succinctly put.As a late Boomer about to hit 50,I'm having a hard time convincing my son to vote;he suspects it's all a show.His generation is smart though,and as they mature I think the weight of reason will prevail.


Jimmy Stewart
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 6:40 pm

Josef Stalin? Really? Please try to have some kind of clue regarding actual historical movements and what they were before you begin your remarkably ignorant diatribe. Sleep thru school, did we? Attending Glenn Beck U?


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

B.S. — a New York Times/CBS News poll found that Tea Party members were better educated than the average American. Feel free to Google it if you don't believe me.

Haughty elitism might give your own ego a few needed strokes, but it flies in the face of accuracy to trash conservatives as uneducated.

As for following a pied piper over a cliff, I'd say dozens of Democrats in the House of Representatives did exactly that by voting for Obamacare, the stimulus and other parts of Obama's too-liberal-for-most-Americans agenda instead of giving a whit about the consent of the governed.


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

You still didn't address Warrior's point — instead of blaming somebody else or calling conservatives stupid, why not look yourselves in the mirror and ask whether you're really in sync with what Americans want in 2010?

More to the point, why not take a serious look at how socialism is failing all over Europe and ask yourself how long America can continue to run trillion-dollar deficits and keep devaluing the dollar.

Maybe it's time to make like the Europeans and start cutting government spending instead of pretending that the national credit card has no limit.


Rdl114
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:05 pm

Unfortunately it is you who doesn't know what you're talking about. First things first.

I don't consider Michigan to be a Liberal state. It is a centrist state, as are most Midwest states excepting Illinois. Before this election MI's Congressional delegation was 8-7 in favor of Dems… scarcely making it a Liberal state. The governorship has traded parties pretty evenly since 1969. The statehouse has been 60-40 Dems, but a LOT of those Dems are very very middle of the road except those from impoverished urban areas. Love to see a survey on how many Michigan residents consider themselves Liberals.

I'm referring to dyed in the wool liberal states in New England, NY, NJ, MD, DE, and the Pacific Coast plus HI vs the most right wing states. For instance, the worst poverty in the country belongs to MS, LA, NM, AR, WV KY, TX, AL, SC, OK, NC, GA, TN ID, MT, and AZ. Interestingly Michigan ranks 25th, right in the middle.

The top of the income scale states? CT, NJ, MA, MD, NY and IL – all pretty damned liberal.

Worst divorce rate? After NV, (which is an outlier because of its divorce industry)… AR, AL, WY, ID, WV, KY, TN, FL, AZ, CO. Live births among females 15 to 19? MS, TX, AZ, AR, NM, GA, LA, NV, AL, and OK. In the case of teen pregnancies, the leading states nearly DOUBLE those in states with the lowest rates (New England, NY, NJ) So much for family values in right wing states.

Illiteracy, alcohol related vehicle deaths, gun deaths, overall violent deaths… all are led (in the negative sense) by the conservative states… you can go to statemaster.com to verify. Or the census.


Rdl114
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:07 pm

If you want to talk about cities… so fine… take Detroit, which you very well know has structural economic problems wholly unrelated to political philosophy. But for every Detroit I'll show you a Boston, NY, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Ann Arbor, Madison, etc.


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:09 pm

The rich states are all liberal? Yeah, that really applies to California and New York these days, doesn't it?

How many millions/billions of dollars are they in the red today, thanks to liberalism?

Don't come crying to the other states for a bailout — some of us actually know the meaning of “belt tightening” and “balanced budget,” and we're not interested in digging into our own pockets to enable the bad habits of our lazy cousin who wants to sleep on our couch and eat food from our refrigerator.


Me
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:16 pm

So when are these old people going to die off already?


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 12:18 am

Aw, you’re just upset because America’s senior citizens no longer buy into the Democrats’ once-reliable ploy: “The Republicans want to take away your Social Security!!!!”


Guamster
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

Ron Paul article…priceless.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jesse-venturas-conspiracy-theory-wall-street


Guamster
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

Wrong one. Ron Paul article:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ron-paul-calls-end-americas-welfare-state-choice-opt-out-social-security


Peggy Keller
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 11:45 pm

The NY Times CBS Poll was a self reporting poll. That means the pollster said: What is your income bracket? What level of education do you have? Those questions are notoriously over inflated. People who spent a year in college say they have a degree.
When you actually compare registered voters with their party affiliation and their education level, registered democrats hold more advanced degrees by far, than any other group and more Bachelors degrees. Study after study that look at the actual degrees and voter records have proven this, but the Tea Party love to take this one self reporting poll and toss it up over and over again. Just because I tell a pollster than I have a law degree when I really only took an intro to law class, does not make it true.


Peggy Keller
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 11:48 pm

If that was true, the red states would not have to rely on the blue state taxes year after year after year. Blue states have routinely paid more in taxes than they get back and Red states have routinely taken more in tax dollars that they put in. Look it up.


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 12:15 am

The fact remains that California is now $8 billion dollars in debt, soon to hit $10 billion, and I was responding to the claim that liberal states are richer than conservative states.

I stand by my point: A state with bigger debts than many small countries cannot in any way be considered “rich.”


uponfurtherreview
Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 12:37 am

Then again, you don't have a shred of proof that the poll in question is inaccurate in the least.

But let's be honest — this isn't about the poll; it's about you. What I really hear you saying is:

“Rather than consider the possibility that Tea Party members are well educated too, and that they might simply have an honest and informed disagreement with my point of view, I'd rather not have my smug sense of superiority challenged. It's easier — and safer — to dismiss them as toothless inbreds from 'Deliverance' than give an iota of respect to them and their point of view.”

Face it — you're so indoctrinated into your orthodoxy, you're convinced that any dissent could only stem from ignorance and/or stupidity.


KB
Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 2:12 am

I couldn't have said it better myself. It baffles me that the very people out in droves protesting are the ones who would benefit most from the very policies they are protesting. I particularly loved the seniors this time around who said they were voting for the Tea Party candidate (Republican) because the Democrats wanted to take away their Social Security or Medicare. Really? Are you serious? Have you been paying attention for the last 30 plus years? It makes me genuinely sad. I can respect opposing viewpoints…not everyone is going to agree with me. I am fine with that. What drives me absolutely nuts is the volume of individuals that try to debate with Fox News talking points. It's not a debate because to them, anything that Glen Beck says is truth and there isn't anything you can say to change their mind. They don't even bother to check the facts independently before taking to the streets. Call me lazy, but I'm not dragging my rear end out in the cold unless I have at least verified the facts.

It strikes me that we may very well be seeing the fruits of a failed education system. The lack of critial thinking skills is truly frightening.


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Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 5:28 am

The Republicans are so funny, when the economy is good you say let’s all celebrate “Cinco de Mayo, my brothers” but when the economy is down “it’s all your fault, you damn immigrant”.

The GOP has gone on a nationwide rant in proposing and passing several anti-immigration legislation (that our US Courts continue to strike down) and have continue to blame the immigrant for the flat economy or worse.

Plus the more radical of the GOP are now attacking our Constitution (with all Amendments), and the Declaration of Independence, in their crazy notion of wanting to take away rights that all of us take for granted in their misguided attempt to garner some much needed votes, they really are fools, and leading the GOP towards obscurity because they are no longer a party of ideas, just of empty suits.

When most Americans (of Latin America roots) went to the polls this November we all remembered who stood with us and who stood against us, so trying to make amends now is somewhat funny, but go ahead, you did not change our minds. Your hate made you do it, and you found out that you reap what you have sown. I wonder what Abraham Lincoln would say about todays GOP, he unlike the current GOP was a man of ideas.


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I don't think this is true, is 35 considered old, I think anyone with kids and a steady job don't like the Democrats


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