What does Kirk’s early Senate entry mean for the DREAM Act?
Thursday, November 04, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Mark Kirk, the Republican senator-elect from Illinois, could be sworn in as early as Nov. 29 due to special circumstances regarding his seat, which used to belong to President Obama but was handed over to Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.) when Obama took office. Kirk will serve in the lame-duck session in a seat that used to be a reliable Democrat vote — meaning Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will have more difficulty passing the DREAM Act in a the lame-duck session.
Reid claims his caucus is behind him on the act, which would give some undocumented students and military service members a change to gain legal status to remain in the country. “We all support the DREAM Act,” he said on Univision in an interview that aired Sunday. “I just need a handful of Republicans to help me.”
Kirk has said he wouldn’t, despite exhaustive efforts by DREAM Act supporters to convince him otherwise. “This is not the time to do that,” Kirk said in a debate.
How important is Kirk’s vote for passing the DREAM Act? It depends on who Reid means when he says “we all support the DREAM Act.” There are 59 senators who caucus with the Democrats and 41 Republicans. Kirk will change those numbers to 58 and 42. Reid needs 60 votes to overcome a filibuster if he hopes to pass the DREAM Act.
If Reid’s right about his caucus, he would only need two Republicans to vote “yes” on the DREAM Act. Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) co-sponsored the bill and would almost certainly vote for the it as a standalone measure, although he voted in September to filibuster the defense authorization bill that included it. Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah) has also said he would vote for the act as a standalone bill.
But if either of them or any Democrats fall through, other Republicans are tougher to pin down. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who was one of the original sponsors of the DREAM Act, seems likely to vote against it now because he favors a borders-first approach to tackling immigration problems. “The American people want the government to secure our borders, create jobs and reduce the deficit.” Hatch said when he announced plans to vote against the DREAM Act’s inclusion in the defense authorization bill.
Lugar, Hatch and Bennett were two of twelve Republicans who voted for the DREAM Act in 2007. The others still in Senate — Sam Brownback (R-Kans.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) — have been vague about whether they would support the measure as a standalone this year.
When the bill came up as a possible addition to the defense authorization bill, a few Democrats said they were not sure they would support it this time around. Sens. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Mary Landrieu (D-La.) told The Hill in September they might vote “no” on the DREAM Act.
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Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 9:39 pm
Hopefully the Illinois republican is not of the same ilk as some of his cohort. Who knows. But it would be very important to pass this act. Now.
Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 9:46 pm
I called Senator Durbin and Senator Kirk about this bill. No one could tell me if the cost of this had been scored by the CBO. No one could say what the cost is at the state level. No one could address how we stop incentivizing more to come over the border. It is simply irresponsible to push a bill without talking about the costs associated with it.
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Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 10:32 pm
Elections are over!, now can we please work together on both sides to pass this important bill. If Republicans are honest on saying “we need to get things done”, then this is their chance to prove it. The Dream Act can't wait no more.!
Comment posted November 4, 2010 @ 11:06 pm
The Republicans and the Democrats needs to vote yes on this bill. The Dream Act cannot wait any longer. It needs to be passed now. 70% of the population are in favor of the Dream Act. If the Republicans are there to represent the American people, then they will vote for the Dream Act.
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Comment posted November 5, 2010 @ 12:55 am
This act is as simple as right and wrong. Regardless of party lines politicians need to sit down discuss and find a way to pass the Dream Act which in all senses is fair and just, not to mention a good step towards dealing with border issues
Comment posted November 5, 2010 @ 2:39 am
The Dream Act will give amnesty to illegal aliens up to the age of 35. Once given citizenship they will then be able to bring in their parents, siblings, etc., through chain migration. This is nothing more than a back door amnesty for all illegals since the majority of illegals in this country are between the ages of 16 and 35 years old. Go to NumbersUSA and read about the Dream Act before you make a decision to support it unless, of course, you support amnesty for ALL illegal aliens.
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Comment posted November 5, 2010 @ 4:27 am
they can not bring their perents to the us, they cant file for nobody not even a dog. you need to read it. only a few thousands will get legal satus and stop blowing smoke.
Comment posted November 5, 2010 @ 5:11 am
Sorry buddy, but You, like a lot of people need to get your facts straight. Clearly, you know nothing about this law, just stuff you heard from other people who probably knows very little.
Yes the Dream Act gives people up to 35 to stay in this country and have a chance to become legal but they must have arrived here before the age of 16. So, for arguments sake, let's say YOU arrived here at the age of 15 and now 35 years old. YOU have been in this country for 20 years!!!!!! That is a long time. Imagine kids and there are a lot of kids who came here before the age of 10. What are they gonna do?? USA is all they know, this is their homeland.
PASS THE DREAM ACT NOW!!!
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Comment posted November 7, 2010 @ 4:12 pm
Put yourself in that setuation, what if you came here to America when you were only 9 years old or 8 and spend the rest of your young life here. The only dream you can follow is here in America. How would you feel if people were stopping from following your dreams because you`re an immigrant, how would you feel if your dreams were crushed and had no choice but to spend the rest of our life suffering working long hours day and night as a immigrant and working for low pay everyday 6 times or even 7 times a week so you wont starve.
The bill should be passed is the only way teens can follow their dreams of getting a education and being successful instead of suffering and watching their parents cry almost every night so they wont suffer like they are, working hard and getting ripped off because they`re immigrants and can`t do anything about it. So think about it, what if you were that child or that parent!
Comment posted November 7, 2010 @ 5:27 pm
Republicans should vote yes on the DREAM ACT, the one thing making people against the DREAM ACT is they are afraid, afraid of change. Afraid, that these children and adults are going to challenge us in jobs. To me its ridicolous that we are scared that they will take our jobs and that we are afraid of competing with these kids.Also, these kids are not being put infront of our children for seats in colleges or universities, they gained the right to be there with their grades and have worked hard like anyone else. These kids have learned hard work and hardships more than anyone else in this country since they were small, we know that they will do anything to thrive and dont take anything for granted, by far they are the students who you see in colleges who are there to LEARN. I say pass the DREAM ACT and give them the security we have so they can as well have a taste of the land of the free. Oh and everyone is an IMMIGRANT to this country by your ancestors unless you are a NATIVE AMERICAN, so we have all been part of an Immigration Chain!!!
Comment posted November 7, 2010 @ 10:22 pm
justie you are clearly misinformed and you need to get yourself educated about it. approximately 1 million out of 15mill will benefit that doesnt include how many will accomplish the requirements, the number might be lower than what everyone thought since they all have to go through a criminal background check, tough interview, fees, high school diploma, 2 yr colloge degree or a military service, etc….). if they accomplish those requirements for the 6 years they will be eligible for a green card. that means they can still get deported and no voting rights. after 5 years of no criminal background they can apply for citizenship. that means 11 total years of waiting. then they can sponsor their parents but they will have to go throught the 10 yr ban in theis counrty a law that was passed in 2000. (in order to get accepted by USIC they have to go back to their contry for 10 yrs.) sweety its no amnesty look up the definition for it.
Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 4:58 am
Costs? When it passes, these kids are gonna be slapped with fines, and will contribute much more than what it costs to process LESS than 1 million people across the country. They have to pay the government to process them. Thats not even a city! Plus, all the income/taxes that will be paid when people can finally purchase cars and houses is a boost to the economy as well. This act is in the best interest of the country. People just need to get educated about it.
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Comment posted November 8, 2010 @ 3:07 pm
The country is in a sour mood. We are losing our jobs and our homes are being foreclosed. We suffer 10% unemployment and no hope the economy will recovery soon. In good economic times, this bill would be a hard sell, but it would pass.
Many forces have aligned against the President. It will be difficult for him to force this bill thru Congress. Our new U.S. Congress will be dead locked, almost nothing will get done.
Sentor Reid may bring this bill up in a lame duck session, but the House will fail to pass it. I personally hope he finds the time to bring it up.
Comment posted November 9, 2010 @ 7:16 am
nowhere does it say DREAM Act is an amnesty. get your facts straight.
Comment posted November 10, 2010 @ 8:13 pm
The Dream Act is an AMNESTYperiod!. As is any AgJobs legislation!! America says a resounding NO to both the say way we said no to CIR. We want our borders secured and ALL illegal aliens no matter how old deported now. You're probably nothing more than another La Raza propagandist, you Latino racist.
Comment posted November 10, 2010 @ 8:24 pm
“their perents'? if any of these Latinos have reached the level of ESL education that you have they have absolutely no chance to succeed in any higher education settings. The only thing they deserve is to be deported back to the cesspool societies they came from like Mexico. I hear drug and human smuggling can be quite lucrative. Maybe they should consider going to work for the narco traffickers. Dream on because the the Dream Act is kaput!
Comment posted November 10, 2010 @ 8:25 pm
okay, that was really uncalled for.
for one, i am not Latino(there are plenty of immigrants in this country that aren't Hispanic).
for two, i am not racist.
and three, not all illegal immigrants were illegal in the first place- there are plenty legal immigrants who came into this country the LEGAL way, and have lost their status overtime due to such government backlog.
so please, don't go assuming things in just the black and white sense of the situation.
P.S. just because i support the DREAM Act doesn't make me any less of an American.
Comment posted November 10, 2010 @ 8:32 pm
why is just about Hispanics with you?
the immigration consists of people from all over the world, not just Mexico.
and may i ask you something? do you have children? if you do, imagine them being sent to some country they are unfamiliar with to be sold to prostitution and slavery. stop being so inhumane and insensitive. if you were put in the situation of these people, you would NOT be saying any of this obnoxious crap.
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Comment posted November 18, 2010 @ 4:41 am
Elise honey, you’re going to have to learn how to write about some other topic than illegal immigration (while infusing it with your constant cheer-leading for law breakers.)
You’re turning into a one note Johnny. Every time I see the words “washingtonindependent” and “immigration” then “Elise Foley” is always there too!
Diversify honey! Diversify!
Comment posted December 10, 2010 @ 8:38 pm
i do not believe that the majority of Americans wants to see the dream act passed into law. when have we changed the meanng of illegal? we talk about murder, robvery and drugs as illegal no problem, but immigrants it seems to have another meaning. people used to come to America to become Americans not change america. illegal is illegal and should be punished not rewarded.
Comment posted May 19, 2011 @ 1:42 pm
No Dream Act….Majority of Americans do not want the Dream Act passed. OUR BORDERS ARE OBVIOUSLY UNSECURE. We resent the fact that our President is sueing Arizona and attempting to convince us of what we know is not true. The ‘Dreamers” will be up to the age of 30 and will be able to sponsor the very persons who broke MANY of our laws, their parents. If the “dreamers” want citizenship they can join the military for citizenship and an education. THE DREAM ACT IS JUST A POLITICAL GAME FOR OBAMA.
Comment posted May 19, 2011 @ 1:42 pm
No Dream Act….Majority of Americans do not want the Dream Act passed. OUR BORDERS ARE OBVIOUSLY UNSECURE. We resent the fact that our President is sueing Arizona and attempting to convince us of what we know is not true. The ‘Dreamers” will be up to the age of 30 and will be able to sponsor the very persons who broke MANY of our laws, their parents. If the “dreamers” want citizenship they can join the military for citizenship and an education. THE DREAM ACT IS JUST A POLITICAL GAME FOR OBAMA.
Comment posted May 19, 2011 @ 1:49 pm
This would be the second Amnesty if given. Reagan gave Amnesty but was advised by the congressmen that if he did they would ensure that the border was secured. It did not happen. Thing is when all was said and done their were many more illegals than our government was aware that was in this country. The Dream Act is an Amnesty, the dreamers will be able to sponsor their families for citizenship. HOW MANY AMNESTIES ARE WE GOING TO GIVE. HOW MANY PEOPLE (FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD) ARE ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY. ARE BORDERS ARE UNSECURE HOW MANY MORE WILL ENTER OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND WAIT FOR AMNESTY. GO TO WWW.NUMBERUSA.COM AND JOIN TO STOP THIS INVASION.
Comment posted May 19, 2011 @ 4:26 pm
*Facepalm* You don’t think YOUR ancestors have broken the laws when killing off the Natives? You AREN’T a true citizen of this country either.
Also, Military doesn’t take anyone who is in a Dreamer’s situation, you don’t have some sort of SSN, they just smirk at you. Just letting your OBVIOUSLY ignorant self know how it for a Dreamer to get a citizenship/ education through the military- THERE IS NONE! Go read over the laws before posting gibberish.
Comment posted May 19, 2011 @ 4:29 pm
Seriously!? Numbersusa!? Is THAT where you got all this garbage? Hmm, go figure. You’re one of THEM. HA.
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