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Amnesty has not worked in the PAST nor will it ever WORK!

We need the American ACT where we deport all illegals through attrition and remove ALL incentives for foreigners to come to this United States ILLEGALLY!

Amnesty has not worked in the PAST nor will it ever WORK!

We need the American ACT where we deport all illegals through attrition and remove ALL incentives for foreigners to come to this United States ILLEGALLY!

Thinking out of box :

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1. Americans exporting renewable energy resources to Saudi Arabia?

A Mountainview, Calif. company, SolFocus, announced a deal with a major construction company in Saudi Arabia.

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Top oil exporter Saudi Arabia believes renewable sources could account for up to 10 percent of its power output by 2020 with prices coming down and a regulatory framework in place

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According to a Saudi official, “We believe large scale power generation from solar can be achieved near the end of this decade, near 2020. Beyond 2020, the economics will be clearly in the favor of deployment of solar power,”

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Still viewed as an obstructionist by global sustainability advocates, Saudi Arabia began investing in renewable energy recently. Why would the OPEC leader warm up to solar? : The region gets a lot of sun.

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2. If renewable energy works against job growth, EU should be the poorest region by now.

I feel a nation with a modern infrastructure is not always successful, without which base any country is unable to make it.

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3. While some critics are counting cents on the utility bill, it is claimed that : ” the U.S. uses about 24 percent of the world's oil, this equates to 20.9 million barrels a day. If the U.S chooses to embrace renewable energy, the U.S could save $750 billion per year and create about 6 million jobs”.

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4. As we are all aware, Senator Harry Reid is in charge of RES legislation, accordingly, the future and fate of renewable energy might be up to Nevadans.

Thinking out of box :

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1. Americans exporting renewable energy resources to Saudi Arabia?

A Mountainview, Calif. company, SolFocus, announced a deal with a major construction company in Saudi Arabia.

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Top oil exporter Saudi Arabia believes renewable sources could account for up to 10 percent of its power output by 2020 with prices coming down and a regulatory framework in place

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According to a Saudi official, “We believe large scale power generation from solar can be achieved near the end of this decade, near 2020. Beyond 2020, the economics will be clearly in the favor of deployment of solar power,”

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Still viewed as an obstructionist by global sustainability advocates, Saudi Arabia began investing in renewable energy recently. Why would the OPEC leader warm up to solar? : The region gets a lot of sun.

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2. If renewable energy works against job growth, EU should be the poorest region by now.

I feel a nation with a modern infrastructure is not always successful, without which base any country is unable to make it.

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3. While some critics are counting cents on the utility bill, it is claimed that : ” the U.S. uses about 24 percent of the world's oil, this equates to 20.9 million barrels a day. If the U.S chooses to embrace renewable energy, the U.S could save $750 billion per year and create about 6 million jobs”.

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4. As we are all aware, Senator Harry Reid is in charge of RES legislation, accordingly, the future and fate of renewable energy might be up to Nevadans.

Deporting illegal immigrants would be costly and detrimental to our society. Deportation does NOT work. Not only is it immoral, unethical, but by economic meant, it's unsound. Legalizing illegal immigrants in a fair way, is useful to our country and will add BILLIONS of dollars into our economy. It didn't work in the past, because there wasn't any enforcement. Now there is. Anyway, the Dream Act is for undocumented students, who had NO CHOICE. Why should they be blamed for their parents choices? It's simply isn't fair.

Deporting illegal immigrants would be costly and detrimental to our society. Deportation does NOT work. Not only is it immoral, unethical, but by economic meant, it's unsound. Legalizing illegal immigrants in a fair way, is useful to our country and will add BILLIONS of dollars into our economy. It didn't work in the past, because there wasn't any enforcement. Now there is. Anyway, the Dream Act is for undocumented students, who had NO CHOICE. Why should they be blamed for their parents choices? It's simply isn't fair.

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No need to perform FORCED mass deportations, just REMOVE all incentives for illegals to stay here “JOBS, BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP,PUBLIC PROGRAMS, SCHOOL, ETC” and allow for clear and safe passage back to their home countries.

Removing ILLEGALS from our nation would SAVE our nation Billions in wasted public programs, remove traffic from our streets, lessen green house gases and end the need bilingual translation of everything, which wastes millions of both public / private dollars.

Removing illegals would open up more jobs for Americans both young and old.

What is fair to stop this nonsense, open our EYES that Amnesty has failed every time and has done NOTHING to help our nation, but encourage more illegals to come.

The MORAL and ETHICAL choice for children of illegals violating our laws is to leave with their criminal parents.

Its completely FAIR!

No need to perform FORCED mass deportations, just REMOVE all incentives for illegals to stay here “JOBS, BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP,PUBLIC PROGRAMS, SCHOOL, ETC” and allow for clear and safe passage back to their home countries.

Removing ILLEGALS from our nation would SAVE our nation Billions in wasted public programs, remove traffic from our streets, lessen green house gases and end the need bilingual translation of everything, which wastes millions of both public / private dollars.

Removing illegals would open up more jobs for Americans both young and old.

What is fair to stop this nonsense, open our EYES that Amnesty has failed every time and has done NOTHING to help our nation, but encourage more illegals to come.

The MORAL and ETHICAL choice for children of illegals violating our laws is to leave with their criminal parents.

Its completely FAIR!

Mr. Reid, you just handed your opponent an easy victory before the election even gets underway! The overwhelming majority of Americans are totally against any form of amnesty for illegals. You need to pull your head out of the clouds, dude! You and all your fellow Democrats are going to lose this election, plain and simple. AND GOD HELP ANY REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T TAKE UP THE CAUSE AGAINST ILLEGALS!!!! THAT'S ONE PROMISE YOU DON'T DARE BREAK!!!!

Mr. Reid, you just handed your opponent an easy victory before the election even gets underway! The overwhelming majority of Americans are totally against any form of amnesty for illegals. You need to pull your head out of the clouds, dude! You and all your fellow Democrats are going to lose this election, plain and simple. AND GOD HELP ANY REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T TAKE UP THE CAUSE AGAINST ILLEGALS!!!! THAT'S ONE PROMISE YOU DON'T DARE BREAK!!!!

OUT WITH REID & LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES

It’s inevitable that if Senator Harry Reid returns to the Washington, that Liberal-Democrats will pass–AMNESTY. He has promised to the 13 to 20 million illegal alien criminals that this is a foremost issue to bring to the Senate floor. Once this message resonates around the world, foreigners will be boarding jets or jumping the North or Southern borders to take advantage of this imminent Immigration Reform bill. Makes more sense to enforce the 1986 laws already affirmed in law. Already those who have settled here is an enormous economic burden on citizens and legal residents, so the next waves to arrive here will become an irreversible critical financial disaster for taxpayers. This is not the illogical dream of just Senator Harry Reid, but Barbara Boxer, but Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano, Russell Feingold and all but a few of the hard-left politicians of the progressive movement. THIS CAN BE CALCULATED AS HIGHER TAXES, FOR US ALL…?

We need TEA PARTY, moderate centralist's, Independents and other political party associates to disinfect, thus erasing this accumulation of open border sewerage ideology. Hold answerable Governors, Majors, Judges, Police chiefs and a growing virus of elected official, who have been approving policies of Sanctuary cities and States. In this severe recession no lucid politician should be thinking of adding more labor or welfare recipients, to the 15.6 million American hoping for a job. Tabling any form of Amnesty will send the decisive message, that criminal activity is not to be rewarded. Use certain keywords, to substantiate the lies from the facts at NumbersUSA and Judicial Watch. At these websites investigate the corruption and propaganda from the ultra Liberal extremist media, tinged with Marxist views that are enveloping the US. GOOGLE–Illegal alien costs and the Democratic push to include illegal aliens in our Social Security. In addition read what the non-profit Heritage Foundation has to say about the propagation of illegal immigration and the 2.6 Trillion cost of another–AMNESTY.

OUT WITH REID & LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES

It’s inevitable that if Senator Harry Reid returns to the Washington, that Liberal-Democrats will pass–AMNESTY. He has promised to the 13 to 20 million illegal alien criminals that this is a foremost issue to bring to the Senate floor. Once this message resonates around the world, foreigners will be boarding jets or jumping the North or Southern borders to take advantage of this imminent Immigration Reform bill. Makes more sense to enforce the 1986 laws already affirmed in law. Already those who have settled here is an enormous economic burden on citizens and legal residents, so the next waves to arrive here will become an irreversible critical financial disaster for taxpayers. This is not the illogical dream of just Senator Harry Reid, but Barbara Boxer, but Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano, Russell Feingold and all but a few of the hard-left politicians of the progressive movement. THIS CAN BE CALCULATED AS HIGHER TAXES, FOR US ALL…?

We need TEA PARTY, moderate centralist's, Independents and other political party associates to disinfect, thus erasing this accumulation of open border sewerage ideology. Hold answerable Governors, Majors, Judges, Police chiefs and a growing virus of elected official, who have been approving policies of Sanctuary cities and States. In this severe recession no lucid politician should be thinking of adding more labor or welfare recipients, to the 15.6 million American hoping for a job. Tabling any form of Amnesty will send the decisive message, that criminal activity is not to be rewarded. Use certain keywords, to substantiate the lies from the facts at NumbersUSA and Judicial Watch. At these websites investigate the corruption and propaganda from the ultra Liberal extremist media, tinged with Marxist views that are enveloping the US. GOOGLE–Illegal alien costs and the Democratic push to include illegal aliens in our Social Security. In addition read what the non-profit Heritage Foundation has to say about the propagation of illegal immigration and the 2.6 Trillion cost of another–AMNESTY.

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Deporting illegals is a HUGE cost saving idea. One we have NEVER tried.

We have had seven amnesties (oops – pathways to citizenship). After each one the problem grows as illegals know that another will eventually come. They know they can find jobs. The employers know their chances of getting caught are less then Tiger Woods turning gay.

If we grant the dream act to the up to 35 year old KIDS???? we can expect another one for each group like ag workers, then union members then who knows. In a few decades the kids will petition to get citizenship for their parents (further rewarding them and encouraging another wave of illegals).

AS Hernandez stated the only way to address this issue is by removing those rewards.

Amnesty gives the same result you would expect if told your kids “no cookie” before dinner yet when you catch them you not only let them finish the cookie they took, you hand them another one.

Deporting illegals is a HUGE cost saving idea. One we have NEVER tried.

We have had seven amnesties (oops – pathways to citizenship). After each one the problem grows as illegals know that another will eventually come. They know they can find jobs. The employers know their chances of getting caught are less then Tiger Woods turning gay.

If we grant the dream act to the up to 35 year old KIDS???? we can expect another one for each group like ag workers, then union members then who knows. In a few decades the kids will petition to get citizenship for their parents (further rewarding them and encouraging another wave of illegals).

AS Hernandez stated the only way to address this issue is by removing those rewards.

Amnesty gives the same result you would expect if told your kids “no cookie” before dinner yet when you catch them you not only let them finish the cookie they took, you hand them another one.

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dam thats such a great idea,,,,,,,,ones which the native Americans should have come up with long time ago, deporting ur ignorant asses! back to whatever European country u and ur ancestors came from! To them you where the (Aliens)….now u have the nerve 2 call someone else that and look down on them….u might not have done anything, but u sure as hell benefited from it!……..

dam thats such a great idea,,,,,,,,ones which the native Americans should have come up with long time ago, deporting ur ignorant asses! back to whatever European country u and ur ancestors came from! To them you where the (Aliens)….now u have the nerve 2 call someone else that and look down on them….u might not have done anything, but u sure as hell benefited from it!……..

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Have a little racist agenda do we? Must not like whites.

As for me I'm not from Europe so I guess I'm OK in your book – although I'd rather be against someone like you any day.

Remember that the tribes immigrated here too.

The bottom line is that there are some folks (most of us) who want to have borders and want control over who and how many enter this country.

Then there are those like you who either don't want borders – in which case this country would be gone in a few years. Or you only want certain people (most likely hispanics) to be able to have the ability to come here if THEY want, use OUR limited natural resources, have US pay for the birth/medical/education of all their kids and turn this country into another third world, polluted, crime ridden hole.

Yeah some people in the US are not good – so what? There are bad people everywhere and I'd rather be here then any other country every day. If you think we're so bad then go someplace else.

1. Your not being Politically Correct: use the term indigenous people
2. When the indigenous people lived were in control of north america, no immigration laws existed! Nor borders!
3. I like how you compare apples and oranges.
4. You do point out what is really going though.. The slow INVASION from Mexico to conquer the U.S. to steal back land the U.S paid for in a war Mexico lost 160 yrs ago.

1. Your not being Politically Correct: use the term indigenous people
2. When the indigenous people lived were in control of north america, no immigration laws existed! Nor borders!
3. I like how you compare apples and oranges.
4. You do point out what is really going though.. The slow INVASION from Mexico to conquer the U.S. to steal back land the U.S paid for in a war Mexico lost 160 yrs ago.

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He won't even get full support from the Dems.

He won't even get full support from the Dems.

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Pass the Dream Act.

It is a win-win situation. We will have more soldiers and college students as a result of this. We will have more people who will pay taxes and help the economy.

The people who oppose the dream act are ignorant. They refused to think outside of the box.

Pass the Dream Act.

It is a win-win situation. We will have more soldiers and college students as a result of this. We will have more people who will pay taxes and help the economy.

The people who oppose the dream act are ignorant. They refused to think outside of the box.

Let's say yes to the dream lets stop thinking polittical cause that has not drag us to any good lately so let's have some moral and give them kids a chance.. Before anyone post a comment should think about their kid.. and the future.. Remenber when something has reach the top their is nothing more then decline left.. and usa has reach the top… things can turn around and other countries wont be so happy to help us out…. Yes to the dream act…. and I am a republican….

Let's say yes to the dream lets stop thinking polittical cause that has not drag us to any good lately so let's have some moral and give them kids a chance.. Before anyone post a comment should think about their kid.. and the future.. Remenber when something has reach the top their is nothing more then decline left.. and usa has reach the top… things can turn around and other countries wont be so happy to help us out…. Yes to the dream act…. and I am a republican….

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lovingthelife said, “… let's have some moral and give them kids a chance.. Before anyone post a comment should think about their kid.. and the future..” I couldn't agree more with thinking about our and our kids' future.

American citizens must understand that no matter where they stand on the economic ladder there is a foreign worker with equal or better skills who will be very happy to take their jobs either overseas or here at home, and do them as well or better for far less money and with zero benefits. This is a fact and is a direct result of our government’s “Global Economy/Free Trade” policy combined with the law of supply and demand.

The value of any individual (politically or economically) is inversely proportional to the number of people. Therefore, if you want to increase your value you need to decrease the number of people in your career field or political division. This only works down to a certain level where you find that there are too few people to have a quality life style. But if there are too many people then the quality of your life will decrease.

Now consider the immigration issue, legal and illegal. If we allow overpopulated countries to export their excess people into the United States then the value of our people (and their labor) will decrease. Economically, this is capitalism, plain and simple. It's the raw truth. It has nothing to do with racism, religion or any other prejudice. It's just a fact of life in our political economy.

Now consider that we have over 305 million people in the US today, and that number will grow to 439 million by 2050 according to Census Bureau projections; that is 134 million people in only 40 years. Also according to the Census Bureau, 88% of that growth will be the direct result of immigration, legal and illegal, and the children of legal and illegal immigrants. If these numbers do not induce you to at least explore the consequences of our government’s policy of massive immigration, then nothing will short of a foreign worker taking your job.

I ask you, can you think of any problem, we face today, whose long term solution is in any demonstrable way, aided, assisted, or advanced by having larger populations at the local level, the state level, or the national level? Can you think of anything that can get better if we crowd more people into our cities, our towns, into our state, or our nation? Some of the comments I read here cause me to fear H.L. Mencken accurately described the American public today when he said, “…it is in the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting.” If we allow our political leaders from both political parties to accept the comfortable lie that continued massive immigration is a good thing, then the whole country will also reap the difficult and unpleasant consequences.

lovingthelife said, “… let's have some moral and give them kids a chance.. Before anyone post a comment should think about their kid.. and the future..” I couldn't agree more with thinking about our and our kids' future.

American citizens must understand that no matter where they stand on the economic ladder there is a foreign worker with equal or better skills who will be very happy to take their jobs either overseas or here at home, and do them as well or better for far less money and with zero benefits. This is a fact and is a direct result of our government’s “Global Economy/Free Trade” policy combined with the law of supply and demand.

The value of any individual (politically or economically) is inversely proportional to the number of people. Therefore, if you want to increase your value you need to decrease the number of people in your career field or political division. This only works down to a certain level where you find that there are too few people to have a quality life style. But if there are too many people then the quality of your life will decrease.

Now consider the immigration issue, legal and illegal. If we allow overpopulated countries to export their excess people into the United States then the value of our people (and their labor) will decrease. Economically, this is capitalism, plain and simple. It's the raw truth. It has nothing to do with racism, religion or any other prejudice. It's just a fact of life in our political economy.

Now consider that we have over 305 million people in the US today, and that number will grow to 439 million by 2050 according to Census Bureau projections; that is 134 million people in only 40 years. Also according to the Census Bureau, 88% of that growth will be the direct result of immigration, legal and illegal, and the children of legal and illegal immigrants. If these numbers do not induce you to at least explore the consequences of our government’s policy of massive immigration, then nothing will short of a foreign worker taking your job.

I ask you, can you think of any problem, we face today, whose long term solution is in any demonstrable way, aided, assisted, or advanced by having larger populations at the local level, the state level, or the national level? Can you think of anything that can get better if we crowd more people into our cities, our towns, into our state, or our nation? Some of the comments I read here cause me to fear H.L. Mencken accurately described the American public today when he said, “…it is in the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting.” If we allow our political leaders from both political parties to accept the comfortable lie that continued massive immigration is a good thing, then the whole country will also reap the difficult and unpleasant consequences.

Amen to that, i totally agree with you. and way to tell HernandezUSA off! Funny thing their ignorants asses are talking about “Removing illegals would open up more jobs for Americans both young and old.” Well, guess what if the damn americans (the old ones) actually went to college and didnt take education for granted, and weren't too busy being crackheads drunks and potheads they would not have to worry about an immigrant taking their jobs. As an immigrant from Haiti myself, I truly value education, and I know the rest of the immigrants from other countries do to and that is why we excel and give it one thousand percent to succeed, and try to make something of ourselves, but it is hard to go further in life when you have immigration barriers blocking you. Worst on top of it, is if you had come to the country very young and you have spent so much money trying to legalize yourself (resident wise), and everytime it fails. America is a melting pot and the need of positive immigrants is a must. We have shaped america! Introduced new foods, cultures, languages, music, and a lot more, and let's not speak about the money Immigration makes fucking daily on their fucking forms, and process. So before you speak take a step in an immigrants' shoes (wait asswipe you can't) so ask before you put your two cents in.

Amen to that, i totally agree with you. and way to tell HernandezUSA off! Funny thing their ignorants asses are talking about “Removing illegals would open up more jobs for Americans both young and old.” Well, guess what if the damn americans (the old ones) actually went to college and didnt take education for granted, and weren't too busy being crackheads drunks and potheads they would not have to worry about an immigrant taking their jobs. As an immigrant from Haiti myself, I truly value education, and I know the rest of the immigrants from other countries do to and that is why we excel and give it one thousand percent to succeed, and try to make something of ourselves, but it is hard to go further in life when you have immigration barriers blocking you. Worst on top of it, is if you had come to the country very young and you have spent so much money trying to legalize yourself (resident wise), and everytime it fails. America is a melting pot and the need of positive immigrants is a must. We have shaped america! Introduced new foods, cultures, languages, music, and a lot more, and let's not speak about the money Immigration makes fucking daily on their fucking forms, and process. So before you speak take a step in an immigrants' shoes (wait asswipe you can't) so ask before you put your two cents in.

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Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

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Throughout 4 years of my college, I’ve had chances to be friends with these hardworking students. One of them attended MIT with me. He had to work as soon as classes were done. He worked until 2AM working at a tutoring institution just to afford his $50,000 tuition. He couldn’t get financial aid or need-based grant. He only got $3,000 from some private scholarship committees. Now, I’ve seen them at other universities: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, UCBerkeley, UCLA, Yale, everywhere. I don’t know why some of you think they don’t pay, but they do pay every single penny. And certainly, these hardworking students are smarter than some of you Americans. In fact, they would be more help to our country than some of you citizens who maintain hatred and racism towards immigrants.

Throughout 4 years of my college, I’ve had chances to be friends with these hardworking students. One of them attended MIT with me. He had to work as soon as classes were done. He worked until 2AM working at a tutoring institution just to afford his $50,000 tuition. He couldn’t get financial aid or need-based grant. He only got $3,000 from some private scholarship committees. Now, I’ve seen them at other universities: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, UCBerkeley, UCLA, Yale, everywhere. I don’t know why some of you think they don’t pay, but they do pay every single penny. And certainly, these hardworking students are smarter than some of you Americans. In fact, they would be more help to our country than some of you citizens who maintain hatred and racism towards immigrants.

which state do you live in? because stastics say majority of americans say certain illegal aliens deserve pardons

which state do you live in? because stastics say majority of americans say certain illegal aliens deserve pardons

didn't jews get blamed for german economy before WWII? hmmm….

didn't jews get blamed for german economy before WWII? hmmm….

I am an American citizen supporting the drema act, and i totally agree with you. My brother is one of many young smart students that would be benefit from this act and most of them have the entire family in the US legaly and because of the broken system this young smart students could not be able to get their legal documents.

I am an American citizen supporting the drema act, and i totally agree with you. My brother is one of many young smart students that would be benefit from this act and most of them have the entire family in the US legaly and because of the broken system this young smart students could not be able to get their legal documents.

hahaha, YOU, my friend, have no room to correct someone.
just pointing out the obvious.

as for your argument about “no laws existed”- it's the same concept.

and do you really feel you have the right to boot out innocent kids who have done nothing wrong to you OR this country JUST because they intimidate you? how pathetic.

hahaha, YOU, my friend, have no room to correct someone.
just pointing out the obvious.

as for your argument about “no laws existed”- it's the same concept.

and do you really feel you have the right to boot out innocent kids who have done nothing wrong to you OR this country JUST because they intimidate you? how pathetic.

also, “opening up more jobs”. does this mean YOU'D be willing to do the dirty work that the immigrants have to do in order to get by?
after all, they ARE the ones who keep this country running, since ignorant, delusional individuals such as yourself like to talk ALL this prejudice AND racist(yes, racist) BS, and open your mouth to think EVERYTHING you say is DIVINE, i would like to know, from YOU, what WOULD happen to our country if ALL the immigrants get sent back? you REALLY choose to believe the country will bloom into some sort of ultra- superior wealth land and drop all the debt in one day? and interesting “factoid” you raised: “remove traffic from our streets”- i REALLY REALLY thought that illegals weren't allowed to drive and obtain a driver's license, nonetheless BUY a CAR! so how would deporting illegal immigrants going to benefit “the drop of traffic”? i usually see “Mexicans” either walk, ride a bicycle, or carpool- all three choices are much better for the environment than most Americans hopping in their car to drive half a block.

so please, elaborate, i would LOVE to hear your bigoted opinion!

once again, JUST stating the obvious.

also, “opening up more jobs”. does this mean YOU'D be willing to do the dirty work that the immigrants have to do in order to get by?
after all, they ARE the ones who keep this country running, since ignorant, delusional individuals such as yourself like to talk ALL this prejudice AND racist(yes, racist) BS, and open your mouth to think EVERYTHING you say is DIVINE, i would like to know, from YOU, what WOULD happen to our country if ALL the immigrants get sent back? you REALLY choose to believe the country will bloom into some sort of ultra- superior wealth land and drop all the debt in one day? and interesting “factoid” you raised: “remove traffic from our streets”- i REALLY REALLY thought that illegals weren't allowed to drive and obtain a driver's license, nonetheless BUY a CAR! so how would deporting illegal immigrants going to benefit “the drop of traffic”? i usually see “Mexicans” either walk, ride a bicycle, or carpool- all three choices are much better for the environment than most Americans hopping in their car to drive half a block.

so please, elaborate, i would LOVE to hear your bigoted opinion!

once again, JUST stating the obvious.

last i've checked, over 70% of Americans(YES, AMERICANS!) are supporting this bill and want it to pass. most likely because they have READ and UNDERSTOOD the bill correctly, and do not want to punish kids for something they had no part of.

what does this say for the rest of you?
well, for one, that you probably should NOT have children of your own.
for two, that you probably have not had enough education to fully grasp the concept of WHAT will happen if this gets passed.
and three, the fact that the rest of America is actually humane enough AND smart enough to understand the benefits of the DREAM Act, not only for the kids, but also, for our country.

last i've checked, over 70% of Americans(YES, AMERICANS!) are supporting this bill and want it to pass. most likely because they have READ and UNDERSTOOD the bill correctly, and do not want to punish kids for something they had no part of.

what does this say for the rest of you?
well, for one, that you probably should NOT have children of your own.
for two, that you probably have not had enough education to fully grasp the concept of WHAT will happen if this gets passed.
and three, the fact that the rest of America is actually humane enough AND smart enough to understand the benefits of the DREAM Act, not only for the kids, but also, for our country.

The laws do exist and the children need to leave with their criminal parents.

The laws do exist and the children need to leave with their criminal parents.

Keep your HATE & RACIST logic! “LA RAZA” member.

I live in CA and illegals drive the freeways, and streets…many without drivers licences….you can buy a car and never register it..cut the crap.

The old worn out.. bla bla American never work an illegals job. Really..

Well the famous illegal working as a house servant was making 45k a YEAR! – what unemployed American wouldn't want that job.

Or working as a fence working and making 45-60K year when there is full time work.

Or as a construction worker making 30k-50k and most of it under the table….

So piss off……

Keep your HATE & RACIST logic! “LA RAZA” member.

I live in CA and illegals drive the freeways, and streets…many without drivers licences….you can buy a car and never register it..cut the crap.

The old worn out.. bla bla American never work an illegals job. Really..

Well the famous illegal working as a house servant was making 45k a YEAR! – what unemployed American wouldn't want that job.

Or working as a fence working and making 45-60K year when there is full time work.

Or as a construction worker making 30k-50k and most of it under the table….

So piss off……

ignorance is bliss. that's all i have to say.

but, what do you have against the DREAM Act?

if you were in the position where you couldn't possibly do anything with your life after high school and work, and actually succeed, you'd be a singing a different tune. i haven't seen anywhere in the DREAM Act that it says it gives an amnesty to ALL illegals.

for one, it ISN'T an amnesty, so it's not like every illegal immigrant that comes over here will be just handed a citizenship.

two, have you LOOKED at the requirements of a person to be eligible for it? it's actually a lot to accomplish.

- they had to be brought here before the age of 16(which usually happens because the kids get brought here as toddlers.) but someone can't come here at the age of 20, and attempt to claim this since they didn't GRADUATE high school here and had no formal education in the United States to get a GED either.

- with the high rates of drop outs in schools in this day and age, there wouldn't be THAT many kids who would qualify for this either.

- usually, if a child drops out of school, they become wrapped up in criminal activity, such as gangs, stealing cars, drugs, etc., so once again, not a lot of kids would be qualified for this.?

- and for those kids who ARE qualified for this, it's a dream come true, because they have done nothing to deserve something like this, graduated from their schools with their GPA flying through the roof, highly educated and ready to make OUR country a better place by contributing back to the society.

the numbers of qualifying students would be fairly low due to the fact that not EVERY illegal immigrant's child would pass the requirements.

if you really do the research, and look at the numbers, you'll find that out of millions of kids in this situation, only a few thousand will be able to receive conditional legal status, that DOESN'T mean a citizenship.

i'm just stating facts on this, so you really do not have to be rude, or inconsiderate about any of this.

wow someone's a bitter, old hag.

ignorance is bliss. that's all i have to say.

but, what do you have against the DREAM Act?

if you were in the position where you couldn't possibly do anything with your life after high school and work, and actually succeed, you'd be a singing a different tune. i haven't seen anywhere in the DREAM Act that it says it gives an amnesty to ALL illegals.

for one, it ISN'T an amnesty, so it's not like every illegal immigrant that comes over here will be just handed a citizenship.

two, have you LOOKED at the requirements of a person to be eligible for it? it's actually a lot to accomplish.

- they had to be brought here before the age of 16(which usually happens because the kids get brought here as toddlers.) but someone can't come here at the age of 20, and attempt to claim this since they didn't GRADUATE high school here and had no formal education in the United States to get a GED either.

- with the high rates of drop outs in schools in this day and age, there wouldn't be THAT many kids who would qualify for this either.

- usually, if a child drops out of school, they become wrapped up in criminal activity, such as gangs, stealing cars, drugs, etc., so once again, not a lot of kids would be qualified for this.?

- and for those kids who ARE qualified for this, it's a dream come true, because they have done nothing to deserve something like this, graduated from their schools with their GPA flying through the roof, highly educated and ready to make OUR country a better place by contributing back to the society.

the numbers of qualifying students would be fairly low due to the fact that not EVERY illegal immigrant's child would pass the requirements.

if you really do the research, and look at the numbers, you'll find that out of millions of kids in this situation, only a few thousand will be able to receive conditional legal status, that DOESN'T mean a citizenship.

i'm just stating facts on this, so you really do not have to be rude, or inconsiderate about any of this.

you really do not understand any of this, do you?
i will not argue with you, since it seems i will just be typing out replies to a brick.

thank you for being one of those ignorant Americans that don't comprehend simple matters and are so afraid of change that intimidates them that they bash on innocent kids.

congratulations, i hope you never have children of your own.

you really do not understand any of this, do you?
i will not argue with you, since it seems i will just be typing out replies to a brick.

thank you for being one of those ignorant Americans that don't comprehend simple matters and are so afraid of change that intimidates them that they bash on innocent kids.

congratulations, i hope you never have children of your own.

I understand it just fine.

Criminals parents encouraging their children to be criminals.

I also understand you ignorance + RACIST thinking, and Anti-American BS.

Stop bashing America and American Citizens and acknowledge places like Mexico would never stand for what is being demanded upon our nation, so why should we.

I too am no longer wasting my time talking to a RACIST and Anti-American Brick.

I understand it just fine.

Criminals parents encouraging their children to be criminals.

I also understand you ignorance + RACIST thinking, and Anti-American BS.

Stop bashing America and American Citizens and acknowledge places like Mexico would never stand for what is being demanded upon our nation, so why should we.

I too am no longer wasting my time talking to a RACIST and Anti-American Brick.

i am not “anti- American”, i'm not being racist, i'm white, but why take away the great potential of kids JUST because their parents could have come here illegally, OR became illegal while waiting to have their citizenships processed?

that's almost the same as saying that if a parent is a drug dealer, that we should arrest THEIR kids as well for their parents mistakes.

these kids have been raised here most of their lives, and know this country as their home, the only difference is they weren't born here and don't have a paper stating they are “American”.
they are just as American as you an i.

i am not “anti- American”, i'm not being racist, i'm white, but why take away the great potential of kids JUST because their parents could have come here illegally, OR became illegal while waiting to have their citizenships processed?

that's almost the same as saying that if a parent is a drug dealer, that we should arrest THEIR kids as well for their parents mistakes.

these kids have been raised here most of their lives, and know this country as their home, the only difference is they weren't born here and don't have a paper stating they are “American”.
they are just as American as you an i.

also i'm not bashing on Americans,
i'm bashing on ignorance. ignorance is an ugly thing.
and these kids deserve a chance at life.
they came here by someone else's choice, not their own.

also i'm not bashing on Americans,
i'm bashing on ignorance. ignorance is an ugly thing.
and these kids deserve a chance at life.
they came here by someone else's choice, not their own.

By supporting illegals over your Citizens, you are Anti-American

By supporting illegals and groups like “LA RAZA” you are a RACIST.

The DREAM ACT is nothing, but Amnesty for millions of illegals up to age of 35 who can then sponsor their Parents and so on and so on..

Cry me a River, the children of illegals call themselves American when it is convenient for sympathy. otherwise its Mexican , Chinese, Indian, Irish, whatever

The FACT is they are NOT U.S Citizens and they need to return HOME with their Parents to countries they l truly care about.

Those birth documents as you call, them are LEGALLY recognized documents used by modern countries around the world as documentation of your Citizenship to your Country and any LEGAL rights granted by your Countries Constitution.

Pretending the documents is unimportant is 3rd world thinking, because paper mean nothing in those countries.

We live a 1 class nation that acknowledges documents as a people and by our common laws to protect ourselves and allow the function of modern life. – to throw all legal documents away because its inconvenient to the truth is stupid.

In addition, if these children are SO GREAT; then send them HOME to help fix the Countries their parents came from.

By supporting illegals over your Citizens, you are Anti-American

By supporting illegals and groups like “LA RAZA” you are a RACIST.

The DREAM ACT is nothing, but Amnesty for millions of illegals up to age of 35 who can then sponsor their Parents and so on and so on..

Cry me a River, the children of illegals call themselves American when it is convenient for sympathy. otherwise its Mexican , Chinese, Indian, Irish, whatever

The FACT is they are NOT U.S Citizens and they need to return HOME with their Parents to countries they l truly care about.

Those birth documents as you call, them are LEGALLY recognized documents used by modern countries around the world as documentation of your Citizenship to your Country and any LEGAL rights granted by your Countries Constitution.

Pretending the documents is unimportant is 3rd world thinking, because paper mean nothing in those countries.

We live a 1 class nation that acknowledges documents as a people and by our common laws to protect ourselves and allow the function of modern life. – to throw all legal documents away because its inconvenient to the truth is stupid.

In addition, if these children are SO GREAT; then send them HOME to help fix the Countries their parents came from.

By Supporting illegals you are bashing America and the Citizens of this nation. – its called self hating.

If your am is to bash ignorance then take your head out of the Liberal sand box and really look at the illegals you are supporting and ask you self, if they take, what will this nation be?

- and if you allow the unstopped flooding of millions of illegals (Parents and Children) where will you be and your children, what kind of nation will be left…?

- A nation that has no borders or respected laws ceases becoming a nation.

- The illegals care nothing about you and only want your sympathy to get what they want…

By Supporting illegals you are bashing America and the Citizens of this nation. – its called self hating.

If your am is to bash ignorance then take your head out of the Liberal sand box and really look at the illegals you are supporting and ask you self, if they take, what will this nation be?

- and if you allow the unstopped flooding of millions of illegals (Parents and Children) where will you be and your children, what kind of nation will be left…?

- A nation that has no borders or respected laws ceases becoming a nation.

- The illegals care nothing about you and only want your sympathy to get what they want…

i'm not picking illegals over Americans, i'm just using rational thinking and having
once again, DREAM Act is not an amnesty, it will give the child a probationary 6 year period( to go to college/serve in the military) to prove that they are eligible to obtain a citizenship, meaning, the citizenship will not just be handed to them like a diploma, they will still have to wait for another 5 or 10 years to obtain a citizenship, which adds up to between 10 to almost 20 years of waiting.

also, a lot of immigrants come from countries like Germany, France, England, Russia, Japan, Spain(list goes on) and those countries aren't third world countries, so they DO have documentation and are prosperous. America is viewed as an opportunistic country so people migrate here to HAVE opportunities.

in addition, if these kids were raised in the U.S.A., have American education and speak fluent English, how would they make THEIR country of origin a better place? it's VERY hard to adjust to a new(to the kids) country in your 20's, with the language barriers, and the fact that they have no formal education of their country of origin. they wouldn't be able to “fix” that country even if they wanted to.

i'm not picking illegals over Americans, i'm just using rational thinking and having
once again, DREAM Act is not an amnesty, it will give the child a probationary 6 year period( to go to college/serve in the military) to prove that they are eligible to obtain a citizenship, meaning, the citizenship will not just be handed to them like a diploma, they will still have to wait for another 5 or 10 years to obtain a citizenship, which adds up to between 10 to almost 20 years of waiting.

also, a lot of immigrants come from countries like Germany, France, England, Russia, Japan, Spain(list goes on) and those countries aren't third world countries, so they DO have documentation and are prosperous. America is viewed as an opportunistic country so people migrate here to HAVE opportunities.

in addition, if these kids were raised in the U.S.A., have American education and speak fluent English, how would they make THEIR country of origin a better place? it's VERY hard to adjust to a new(to the kids) country in your 20's, with the language barriers, and the fact that they have no formal education of their country of origin. they wouldn't be able to “fix” that country even if they wanted to.

Hernandez, i, myself, am an immigrant. i came here at a very young age and have been raised as an American, i love my fellow Americans, i'm not self- hating, nor am i supporting ILLEGAL immigration. i support legal immigration. i can tell you from first hand experience it is VERY hard to obtain a visa(it takes months, even years), and it is very hard to obtain a citizenship, and with the backlog of this Nation, it could take up to almost 20 years to become naturalized. it is a very grueling process, and i am one of the few fortunate to have accomplished it.
as i said before, it is VERY easy to become illegal in the process of “waiting in line” for a citizenship, and a lot of immigrants don't even realize what has happened and why. the INS doesn't send anyone a memo stating, “you're illegal now, kthnxbye.”
i want people to realize that there are cases where people arrive in the country LEGALLY, and lose their status along the way, it's not just “Mexicans hopping borders, and Cubans paddling on boats”. it could happen to anyone, even if they are here legally, have been inspected, intend no harm to anyone, and just go about their business.

Hernandez, i, myself, am an immigrant. i came here at a very young age and have been raised as an American, i love my fellow Americans, i'm not self- hating, nor am i supporting ILLEGAL immigration. i support legal immigration. i can tell you from first hand experience it is VERY hard to obtain a visa(it takes months, even years), and it is very hard to obtain a citizenship, and with the backlog of this Nation, it could take up to almost 20 years to become naturalized. it is a very grueling process, and i am one of the few fortunate to have accomplished it.
as i said before, it is VERY easy to become illegal in the process of “waiting in line” for a citizenship, and a lot of immigrants don't even realize what has happened and why. the INS doesn't send anyone a memo stating, “you're illegal now, kthnxbye.”
i want people to realize that there are cases where people arrive in the country LEGALLY, and lose their status along the way, it's not just “Mexicans hopping borders, and Cubans paddling on boats”. it could happen to anyone, even if they are here legally, have been inspected, intend no harm to anyone, and just go about their business.

LEGAL immigration is supposed to be slow, would you really want U.S entry and legal immigration treated like Disney ticket?

Legal immigration is slow because of the immigrant, the Home Counties Government and the United States Government. It is also slow because the HUGE backlog of illegals jumping ahead of the line getting TWPs.

Its better to do LEGALLY.

If you are LEGAL immigrant, then supporting ILLEGALS is like spitting in your own face.

If those children truly want to become “U.S. Citizens”, then get in the back of the line.. meaning return to their legal home countries and for immigration from THERE.

LEGAL immigration is supposed to be slow, would you really want U.S entry and legal immigration treated like Disney ticket?

Legal immigration is slow because of the immigrant, the Home Counties Government and the United States Government. It is also slow because the HUGE backlog of illegals jumping ahead of the line getting TWPs.

Its better to do LEGALLY.

If you are LEGAL immigrant, then supporting ILLEGALS is like spitting in your own face.

If those children truly want to become “U.S. Citizens”, then get in the back of the line.. meaning return to their legal home countries and for immigration from THERE.

“in addition, if these kids were raised in the U.S.A., have American education and speak fluent English, how would they make THEIR country of origin a better place? it's VERY hard to adjust to a new(to the kids) country in your 20's, with the language barriers, and the fact that they have no formal education of their country of origin. they wouldn't be able to “fix” that country even if they wanted to.”

Really??, Illegals jump the borders or overstay their visa's every day and manage to adjust just fine..illegals live among the same ethnic groups and get jobs illegally and buy things.. just fine.

“in addition, if these kids were raised in the U.S.A., have American education and speak fluent English, how would they make THEIR country of origin a better place? it's VERY hard to adjust to a new(to the kids) country in your 20's, with the language barriers, and the fact that they have no formal education of their country of origin. they wouldn't be able to “fix” that country even if they wanted to.”

Really??, Illegals jump the borders or overstay their visa's every day and manage to adjust just fine..illegals live among the same ethnic groups and get jobs illegally and buy things.. just fine.

if they return to their home country, they will be banned for 10 years, for doing absolutely nothing wrong. and what then?
and once again, i don't support ILLEGALS who got here the ILLEGAL way, there is more than black and white in this sort of thing. legal immigrants can become illegal DURING THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY OBTAINING A CITIZENSHIP. it happens more often than one might think.please understand that.

if they return to their home country, they will be banned for 10 years, for doing absolutely nothing wrong. and what then?
and once again, i don't support ILLEGALS who got here the ILLEGAL way, there is more than black and white in this sort of thing. legal immigrants can become illegal DURING THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY OBTAINING A CITIZENSHIP. it happens more often than one might think.please understand that.

so why do the kids have to suffer for something like that?

what did the kids do to deserve this? i honestly feel sorry for those parents who “jumped the border”, but honestly, i'm sure if you had no food on the table to feed your child, you'd probably do whatever it takes to feed your offspring, legal way or not.

legal or not, i don't see why the kids have to be punished for something that wasn't their doing. parents, sure. whatever, but the kids deserve at least a chance, i'm being human, and mentally putting myself in THEIR shoes. kids shouldn't have to be punished for something they haven't done.

once again, if a parent is a drug dealer, would you arrest their kid as well because the PARENT is a bad person?

so why do the kids have to suffer for something like that?

what did the kids do to deserve this? i honestly feel sorry for those parents who “jumped the border”, but honestly, i'm sure if you had no food on the table to feed your child, you'd probably do whatever it takes to feed your offspring, legal way or not.

legal or not, i don't see why the kids have to be punished for something that wasn't their doing. parents, sure. whatever, but the kids deserve at least a chance, i'm being human, and mentally putting myself in THEIR shoes. kids shouldn't have to be punished for something they haven't done.

once again, if a parent is a drug dealer, would you arrest their kid as well because the PARENT is a bad person?

Regardless of the nation being migrated too, the people, language, customs and the laws of that nation must be respected.

If millions of us migrated to another Country other then the United States, do you think that nation and its people would accept us if are always demanding they make exceptions in the law because we refuse to follow their laws?

The DREAM ACT is AMNESTY for MILLIONS of children and adults alike…..not just a 100 or 2………..MILLIONS!!

MILLIONS of people who DO NOT RESPECT this nation or it very existence, especially from South of the Border.

NO AMNESTY!

Regardless of the nation being migrated too, the people, language, customs and the laws of that nation must be respected.

If millions of us migrated to another Country other then the United States, do you think that nation and its people would accept us if are always demanding they make exceptions in the law because we refuse to follow their laws?

The DREAM ACT is AMNESTY for MILLIONS of children and adults alike…..not just a 100 or 2………..MILLIONS!!

MILLIONS of people who DO NOT RESPECT this nation or it very existence, especially from South of the Border.

NO AMNESTY!

Banned for 10 years – Why?

“Legal immigrants can become illegal DURING THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY OBTAINING A CITIZENSHIP. it happens more often than one might think.”

- But that is not what this is about is it..its about millions of people coming to this nation illegally and bringing their children.

- Its SAD, but if someone comes LEGALLY and goes through the process and either a mistake by the person or home country or US and becomes illegal, but that person then must return to their HOME country and try again…by staying here illegally this only makes the problem worse.

Again, this is not the norm nor what the DREAM ACT is about its about AMNESTY and its mainly supported by MEXICO and South Americans, who support those Countries and not this one.

Banned for 10 years – Why?

“Legal immigrants can become illegal DURING THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY OBTAINING A CITIZENSHIP. it happens more often than one might think.”

- But that is not what this is about is it..its about millions of people coming to this nation illegally and bringing their children.

- Its SAD, but if someone comes LEGALLY and goes through the process and either a mistake by the person or home country or US and becomes illegal, but that person then must return to their HOME country and try again…by staying here illegally this only makes the problem worse.

Again, this is not the norm nor what the DREAM ACT is about its about AMNESTY and its mainly supported by MEXICO and South Americans, who support those Countries and not this one.

once again, it is NOT an amnesty. please show me where it says that the DREAM Act is an amnesty.

“Amnesty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.”

once again, it is NOT an amnesty. please show me where it says that the DREAM Act is an amnesty.

“Amnesty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.”

You arrest the Parent and return the child back thier HOME country.

This Country has enough problem and poor American children.

When there are no more poor American children, then I will worry about an illegals child.

You arrest the Parent and return the child back thier HOME country.

This Country has enough problem and poor American children.

When there are no more poor American children, then I will worry about an illegals child.

Thats what the DREAM ACT is: “Amnesty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.”

The “group” happens to be the millions of children from illegals.

They 'group' who on point gain Citizenship will sponsor their parents and etc…….thats how Amnesty works in our US system.

Our nation has tried Amnesty too many times and it only begets more ILLEGALS… we finally put a STOP to this nonsense.

No Amnesty, just enforcement this time…

We need get the message out to come through the front door, you get process as fast as we can, but you sneak in the back door you get kicked out of the park and banned from the line.

Thats what the DREAM ACT is: “Amnesty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.”

The “group” happens to be the millions of children from illegals.

They 'group' who on point gain Citizenship will sponsor their parents and etc…….thats how Amnesty works in our US system.

Our nation has tried Amnesty too many times and it only begets more ILLEGALS… we finally put a STOP to this nonsense.

No Amnesty, just enforcement this time…

We need get the message out to come through the front door, you get process as fast as we can, but you sneak in the back door you get kicked out of the park and banned from the line.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111E5kk3s:e1387:

Sec. 4
(a)Special Rule for Certain Long-Term Residents Who Entered the United States as Children
(1) “IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law and except as otherwise provided in this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security may cancel removal of, and adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, subject to the conditional basis described in section 5, an alien who is inadmissible or deportable from the United States.”

that's all i have to say. i posted the link to the actual bill itself.
thank you.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111E5kk3s:e1387:

Sec. 4
(a)Special Rule for Certain Long-Term Residents Who Entered the United States as Children
(1) “IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law and except as otherwise provided in this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security may cancel removal of, and adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, subject to the conditional basis described in section 5, an alien who is inadmissible or deportable from the United States.”

that's all i have to say. i posted the link to the actual bill itself.
thank you.

Hence Amnesty for those who the DHS deems fit.

And since the DHS works for OB and lots groups like “LA RAZA” want AMNESTY for all and the OB listens to groups like “LA RAZA” anyone the DHS deems admissible will get AMNESTY.

Hence Amnesty for those who the DHS deems fit.

And since the DHS works for OB and lots groups like “LA RAZA” want AMNESTY for all and the OB listens to groups like “LA RAZA” anyone the DHS deems admissible will get AMNESTY.

i know of PLENTY of people who came here LEGALLY, and haven't gotten citizenships, due to the government backlog and irresponsibility, the government response: they “lost everything”, their paperwork AND all their hard earned money. those people have done absolutely nothing wrong and have been trying to do the right thing, and now you expect those people who worked so hard to get here in the first place to just pack up, leave and ATTEMPT to start all over again, because they became out of status due to no fault of their own? that is really inhumane.

i know of PLENTY of people who came here LEGALLY, and haven't gotten citizenships, due to the government backlog and irresponsibility, the government response: they “lost everything”, their paperwork AND all their hard earned money. those people have done absolutely nothing wrong and have been trying to do the right thing, and now you expect those people who worked so hard to get here in the first place to just pack up, leave and ATTEMPT to start all over again, because they became out of status due to no fault of their own? that is really inhumane.

how is it inhumane?

They are not being sent to the Gas chambers……their LEGAL status to stay here is over by either their own hands or others…..it sucks, absolutely.

Do they have the LEGAL right to stay here? NO!

Take what have along with their pride and move back to their home country and try again.

The fact that you know so many people who stay here illegally only tells me that this Country allows this nightmare to happen to often and those who stay illegally know how easy it is too just wait it out and hope for another Amnesty.

how is it inhumane?

They are not being sent to the Gas chambers……their LEGAL status to stay here is over by either their own hands or others…..it sucks, absolutely.

Do they have the LEGAL right to stay here? NO!

Take what have along with their pride and move back to their home country and try again.

The fact that you know so many people who stay here illegally only tells me that this Country allows this nightmare to happen to often and those who stay illegally know how easy it is too just wait it out and hope for another Amnesty.

it does not say “amnesty”, “amnesties”, “amnestied”, or “amnestying” ANYWHERE IN THE BILL.
i posted the link just for you, please go read it carefully.

it does not say “amnesty”, “amnesties”, “amnestied”, or “amnestying” ANYWHERE IN THE BILL.
i posted the link just for you, please go read it carefully.

there is absolutely no point in trying to ration with you. i have brought the FACTS to the table. that's all i can do.
continue to believe it's an amnesty haha.

there is absolutely no point in trying to ration with you. i have brought the FACTS to the table. that's all i can do.
continue to believe it's an amnesty haha.

So, unless its SPELLED out in the bill you cannot logically comprehend the results of law and the action that will happen?

The very definition of Amnesty you provided is what this proposed bill infers to: AMNESTY.

So, unless its SPELLED out in the bill you cannot logically comprehend the results of law and the action that will happen?

The very definition of Amnesty you provided is what this proposed bill infers to: AMNESTY.

you havnt brought any facts.

Only your personal wants to bring Amnesty to illegals.

I do agree there is no point of trying to open your eyes, when you refuse to take your head of the sand.

you havnt brought any facts.

Only your personal wants to bring Amnesty to illegals.

I do agree there is no point of trying to open your eyes, when you refuse to take your head of the sand.

By not giving these children a chance, we are only hurting ourselves. We have invested billions into their growth. So now, you want them out so they can contribute to their parent's respective countries? Come on…What makes me an American? The fact that I was born here. Perhaps, I should be deported to Italy (where my ancestors IMMIGRATED from), because our job market has become too competitive, and our colleges are filling quickly, thus increasing competition. The AMERICAN PERSON has now become scared of competition, hence the reason we will fall behind India and China. These people are contributing to the growth of our country as much, if not more, than documented residents. When we think of illegal immigrants we think of latinos, how about the highly intelligent Indians, Chinese, Japanese….who will go back to their growing countries if they have no incentive to stay here and help grow our economy. Their relatives back home, are doing a terrific job growing their economies, perhaps the same talent will rub off to help our economy

Wow, so now illegals will be the ones to run America because all the ole timers are a bunch of druggies, drunks n never gave a rats butt about education hmmm. So you state you hunger for education as all the rest of illegals so why the hell don’t you get your education in your own country instead of trying to get it as a freebie on tax payers money? No, none of you are as dumb as you look. Get it straight. ILLEGALS do not make America, honest, hard working immigrants who take all proper steps to become part of this country ARE the ones who have made America & continue to do so. Take a hard long look around you so you can see how many of these crackheads, drunks, etc. are in Wall Street, Supreme Courts (which I’m positive it might be some of them that have put those barriers for you) & for your info WE are all immigrants, all races & colors so don’t pride yourself by daring anyone to first step in an immigrants’ shoes crap. Only difference between us legal immigrants’ is that illegals want everything easy, free ride with anything thing you can get. Who told them to breed like nasty rabbits. They know exactly what they are doing n that they are illegals n now want a free ride of legalization based on all the rabbits they pop out. Well then, YOU support them.

Totally TRUE Hernanadez, but for whatever reasons these people don’t or won’t see this. They don’t care for any American at all n you better get it through your heads that everyone who sides with them are only being used. As for their kids, they can just take them back with them. Our American youth are the ones that our goverment should be helping out with their education for they have all the rights first. Just can’t understand these stupid politicians who are so stuck on going out of their way to offer all these services to people who are not Americans at all. Something is very wrong & I’m sure something is behind all of this that once found out will cause a war between Americans.

dear ghostlover, go to hell.

there have been MANY legal immigrants who have been inspected and have done everything by the book to come into this country LEGALLY and who have become illegal overtime due to backlog of the this government. i am an immigrant myself. and we HAVE struggled to obtain citizenship, but if you think it’s as easy as snapping your fingers, think again!

my family has NOT gotten anything “free”, if anything, WE have been pretty much giving money to the government to obtain residential status only to hear them say, “we lost your paperwork and money, no refunds, sorry”. do you have ANY idea how costly it REALLY is? i doubt it. do your research. NOT EVERY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IS ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. many of them became illegal while waiting to be processed after coming here the LEGAL way.

also, illegal immigrants DON’T get anything free anyway.

“Illegal immigrants are barred from the following federal public benefits: grants, contracts, loans, licenses, retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, post secondary education, food assistance, and unemployment benefits. States are barred from providing state or locally funded benefits to illegal immigrants unless a state law is enacted granting such authority.9″
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

If a parent robs a bank, are their children entitled to keep the money? When an American breaks the law and goes to jail, their children also suffer the consequences. This is a matter of law and order and those who keep playing the race and “injustice” cards should be ignored.

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