One Climate Skeptic Gives His Thoughts on the Future of Climate Skepticism
Thursday, October 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm
I reached out to prominent climate skeptic Warren Meyer, who runs the website climate-skeptic.com, for his views on whether future generations will raise questions about climate science in the same way that many Republicans do today. I wrote about the issue earlier today.
Meyer, in an email, said that younger generations are drawn to “the ‘civilization in peril’ line,” and he suggested that people’s views change over time. “[T]he lack of teenage skeptics today is meaningless for whether there will be skeptics in 20 years,” he said.
Here’s his full response:
Young people approach issues in different ways and have different interests, and that has not changed. For example, young people of every generation are suckers for the “civilization in peril” line– they like to think that they as young people are uniquely position to save the world from a once-in a millenia threat. It’s only the threat that changes. In the 50′s it was communism. In the sixties it was the Vietnam war. In the seventies it was hunger and over-population. You get the idea. I read a really interesting treatment of this topic, how the young want to feel they can change the world, that they don’t have to expend decades of work to build up their skills and credibility — that they can be instantly powerful at age 22. There is nothing compelling among young people in the “do nothing” case on any issue, and the rewards systems (school grades, college admissions) is skewed against those who are not openly advocating to change something. So folks who are young who might be skeptics expend their energy on other issues where they can advocate for change rather than the status quo. It doesn’t mean there are no young skeptics, just that these folks may expend their activism in other areas.
The other thing is that younger people are notorious for dismissing or grossly underestimating complexity and costs. We see this in the climate change notion of the precautionary principle, that supposedly if there is even a tiny change of catastrophe, we should act. This seems really compelling to the young. Until you understand that on the other side of the equation is a 100% chance of really high economic costs, including punishing effects on the poor of developing nations who are just emerging from millennia of poverty and need to burn every hydrocarbon they can find to do so.
None of this is unique to our times. Skeptics today in their forties are not skeptics because they were in their teens. So the lack of teenage skeptics today is meaningless for whether there will be skeptics in 20 years.
To Meyer’s point, polls suggest that older people care much more about the cost of policies like cap-and-trade than younger people. A June National Journal/Society for Human Resources Management poll shows that while 65 percent of 18-29 year-olds favor “protecting the environment” — to 29 percent concerned with “keeping prices low” — those numbers change for older people: 40 percent of people over 65 care about protecting the environment, while 47 percent are concerned with keeping prices low.
Given this information, the big question is this: As people get older, does skepticism become more appealing?
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Comment posted October 21, 2010 @ 10:38 pm
I don't think it's that skepticism gets more appealing as we age as much as, over time, we grow more invested in the status quo. When you've got kids, a mortgage, rising health care costs and retirement savings to factor into your monthly budget, pennies start to really matter. Much more than ideology. If more of the 40+ crowd was financially secure, you might find more interest in change among that demographic. To paraphrase Hamlet: better to cling to the evils we know than fly to others we know not.
This article makes the perfect argument for getting more young people involved in civics and governance. Their fearlessness and do-right-cost-be-damned attitude drive the rest of us in a healthier, more sustainable direction. Go, team, go!
Comment posted October 24, 2010 @ 9:49 am
Like most evangelists, kids are very good at telling other people how to live without any concept of giving anything up themselves. Kids of each generation in the west tend to have more affluent lives than their parents. Today’s youth use more energy than when I was a child and in turn, my generation used more than my parents’.
My advice to anyone (including kids) who want to reduce CO2, is get on and do it. You really don’t have to wait for us sceptics.
Kids can.
1) Turn the heating off in the bedroom and make do with more covers.
2) Buy clothes from second hand shops.
3) Walk or cycle.
4) Eat small, locally sourced meals, making sure to eat all the leftovers.
5) Get toys from charity shops. Look after them and send them back when you grow out of them.
6) Give up games and gadgets that need electricity,
7) Use the computer for school work and not games or endless socialising.
8) Only watch the family TV, even if it isn’t what you want to watch.
9) Even if the family is jetting off on holiday, chose a local summer camp.
10) Give up your mobile phone.
If you can master that lot you can have the right to preach CO2 reductions to others.
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